

Hey m'am (lol) ... it's rolling ok... and I thought I knew what deep tissue pain was beforetreilin said:Hey sir how is it rollin LOL
WOW... it's a new challenge for sure.Sarge_ said:Lower Abs/Handles:
Waist (Below Handles):
Waist (Above Handles):
16 days*Bunny* said:Your ass is getting caliperd about 2 weeks...![]()
grrrrGood strategy.Sarge_ said:I think my scale is broken, hence the no bodyweight for this mornings measurments... and it's probably a good thing.
*Bunny* said:Your ass is getting caliperd about 2 weeks...![]()
That's what I was thinking. I'm surprised sarge reacted with ack2006 said:That just sounds kinky LOL hee hee
rather than a
.*Bunny* said:Ill have 3 other wimminz with me (at least)... they all can pinch, Ill superviseand videotape
wtf?!*Bunny* said:Ill have 3 other wimminz with me (at least)... they all can pinch, Ill superviseand videotape

WTF are you going to do with CLIPPERS?!mm107 said:ILL Be bringing my clippers with me toooo
... stay far away Mrs. Bobbit.mm107? He said he was bring his calipers in the previous post.Sarge_ said:You know I'll only strip for one person![]()
I'm running away... not hidingCynical Simian said:sarge, re: that pic. WTF?

Nooooo... he's goin to trim my hair with clippers, not calipersCynical Simian said:mm107? He said he was bring his calipers in the previous post.
Sarge_ said:wtf?!
Nope, not doing it... you just ruined it.
You know I'll only strip for one person![]()
*Bunny* said:Ill have 3 other wimminz with me (at least)... they all can pinch, Ill superviseand videotape
*Bunny* said:Ill have 3 other wimminz with me (at least)... they all can pinch, Ill superviseand videotape
thanks you too Sbtsbt2082 said:Happy Valentines Day Sarge!!!![]()
LOL Yeah.... I can do half my back most days. I focus more lower back. It says to do half of your neck at a time. So maybe roll head towards side being worked and roll it. I'll play with it tonight and see. I don't do much neck stuff. The cranium portion as you pointed out is just as important since that's a lot of muscular insertions there.Sarge_ said:Hey m'am (lol) ... it's rolling ok... and I thought I knew what deep tissue pain was beforeWOW... it's a new challenge for sure.
Doesn't seem to "fit" my neck right... i lay on it and it doesn't do anything, i need it up farthur towards my cranium to fee it in the top of my neck/traps insertion, ect... or lower on the meater part of the traps...
lower back.. omg, i can't do tha for too long... deffinetly helps my spinal alignment... and erector spinea musckles alot. I use it on my legs and arms too.
A great tool for the lifting enthusiast no doubt![]()
lolSarge_ said:Limp Bizkit - Rollin' ? ... haven't heard that in a while... That's not heavylol
I was thinkin, Rawhide! An old Western song.Sarge_ said:After I posted that ... I used it again (yesterday afternoon) ... relaxed into it. Heard my back crackit felt gooooood. Relaxing into it is the key for sure
Limp Bizkit - Rollin' ? ... haven't heard that in a while... That's not heavylol
Thanks you too!!
Yeah, yeah... but it works for me at the gymSarge_ said:After I posted that ... I used it again (yesterday afternoon) ... relaxed into it. Heard my back crackit felt gooooood. Relaxing into it is the key for sure
Limp Bizkit - Rollin' ? ... haven't heard that in a while... That's not heavylol
Thanks you too!!
WOW, You totally have me figured out!!! Right before that I have the Scorpians "Rock you like a hurricane" LOLkabeetz said:Keep in mind treilin listens to Barry Manilow when she works out so it's pretty heavy for her bro.
No no no....HiDinGoD said:I was thinkin, Rawhide! An old Western song.
I look good now? And you've seen update photos of me how?JKurz1 said:Sarge.....cutting blows.................plus you look good now......come hit your goal of 250+ withh me.........fuck it.......its winter and you are healing..........lets roll..........
... i've got more cutting to do 
I'm not sure if it's all signs or mental fatigue from a shitty work week, ect... hopefully this week will be better. I took 7 days off Completely through Christmas - new years time. Seems too soon to "need" it, but I am cutting I guess... who knows. I will if I keep having shitty workouts, no doubt.ChinkNasty said:Sarge, it probably is a time for a deload, if all the signs are pointing in that direction and you're leaning that way already mentally...then take a week and git R dun son...
why, were they faster than they're supposed to be done?al420 said:Were those Speed GM's????
tre- anything by disturbed, slayer or saliva...that should worktreilin said:Yeah, yeah... but it works for me at the gym
I'm switching up IPOD tonight so any of you boy's have any good song ideas for tearing the gym up next week let me know!
My back cracks all the time on there. Whenever I need it to crack I run for it!! You'll C
WOW, You totally have me figured out!!! Right before that I have the Scorpians "Rock you like a hurricane" LOL
No no no....
I like Meatloaf, AC/DC, Aerosmith, The Mama's & the Papa's, etc.treilin said:Yeah, yeah... but it works for me at the gym
I'm switching up IPOD tonight so any of you boy's have any good song ideas for tearing the gym up next week let me know!
My back cracks all the time on there. Whenever I need it to crack I run for it!! You'll C
WOW, You totally have me figured out!!! Right before that I have the Scorpians "Rock you like a hurricane" LOL
No no no....

party on garth!hahaha.....sorry i asked brutha.Sarge_ said:lol, and you asked on the wrong morning...
This morning I had a bowl of Honey bunches of oats in milk and 53grams of protein (MPI, Egg white blend, ect) in water.
Then Oats (at work, i was out of oats at home, hence the desperation bowl of cereal) with the powder in it.
up next, chicken and tato.
I'm eating like a figure competitor for the most part these days![]()
Good info. That's what these boards are for.jpt said:...gives me a nice good morning poop![]()

... i knew there was a reason for this mornings eventfulness *gross-smilie*Lactaid is more expensive per gallon than gas. Does that qualify?Cynical Simian said:sarge, I've said this before: if you're going to eat junk, at least make it high-quality junk.![]()

Cynical Simian said:Good info. That's what these boards are for.
sarge, I've said this before: if you're going to eat junk, at least make it high-quality junk.![]()
haaaaa your telling me brutha....my fiance needs to buy that lactaid shitSarge_ said:JP:... i knew there was a reason for this mornings eventfulness *gross-smilie*
Lactaid is more expensive per gallon than gas. Does that qualify?
Well, nevermind that actually... of all people, I am aware that high cost does not always equal quality... blah.
So, what would be a high-quality junk fest to you?
And this weekend (tonight... or tomorrow) i'm going out... baller style
I'm not sure in what way yet... could be bottle of wine, or pitcher of beer style... we will see![]()
Well, you know your tastes better than I do, but going to a (non-fast food) restaurant or, if you enjoy cooking, preparing something semi-unhealthy yourself come to mind. It just seems that, if you're trying to tighten up your diet and recomp, making the deviations from that diet count with a small number satisfying "cheat meals" would help you stay on track more than random Honey Bunches of Oats or fast food.Sarge_ said:So, what would be a high-quality junk fest to you?
Ok, I gotcha.... yeah I will examine my cheats more carefully if and when my progress slows.Cynical Simian said:Well, you know your tastes better than I do, but going to a (non-fast food) restaurant or, if you enjoy cooking, preparing something semi-unhealthy yourself come to mind. It just seems that, if you're trying to tighten up your diet and recomp, making the deviations from that diet count with a small number satisfying "cheat meals" would help you stay on track more than random Honey Bunches of Oats or fast food.
... the results are fantastic so far. I've NEVER said that after seeing so close a comparison of photos either... I'm very pleased so far. Banging the heavy weights on a restricted diet is working magic.
Sarge_ said:Ok, I gotcha.... yeah I will examine my cheats more carefully if and when my progress slows.
My progress measurements, as seen by you all, has been great so far. And progress photos for me and my Diet genius... the results are fantastic so far. I've NEVER said that after seeing so close a comparison of photos either... I'm very pleased so far. Banging the heavy weights on a restricted diet is working magic.
In the meantime, I will enjoy the large pizzas and beer on weekends![]()
Oh you are right on good fellow. Very true... and because I've dieted/cut before... I generally know when and what my body likes best.Kabeetz said:I could be wrong, as I have a tendency to be so, but I believe what u're experiencing is a product of carrying around lots of muscle mass. You know, that muscle needs more calories just to maintain so you burn fat more efficiently. So you're seeing great results quickly. I can't wait to get to that point LOL
I, on the other hand, feel dirty as f because I couldn't make it to the gym the last 48 hours due to the snow. I miss that place
Anyway enjoy the pizza, have a good weekend. If you see me posting a lot this weekend, yell at me for not studying THANKS!
lol... gotta get that over with already, sheesh.I've bolded what i've noticed to be obvious.coolcolj said:Other clues to overtraining are more subtle. They include the following anaerobic indicators:
Stages of Overtraining
No effect on performance
Altered neural functions
Probably an effect on performance
Altered motor unit recruitment
Altered sympathetic activity and hypothalamic control
Probably decreased performance
Decreased motor coordination
Altered excitation contraction coupling
Decreased muscle glycogen
Increased resting heart rate and blood pressure
Altered immune function
Altered hormonal concentrations
Decreased performance
Decreased force production
Decreased glycolytic capacity
Sickness and infection
Emotional and sleep disturbances
From Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning by Baechle and Earle
That's what I thought at first, but thinking back... last week i thought i was starting to get burnt out and i was right. I remember push pressing and i was not coordinated at all, i was toast last week. And the last hoorah was the DB bench fest that was awesome, I dont' know how that happend, but that's it for now, lol.Kabeetz said:Can't this just be an issue of you are lowering bodyweight and reducing caloric intake and therefore the edge has been taken off some of your lifts?
As I'm typing this, you seem to be pretty convinced that's not it, which means it's probably not it. So definitely deload. When was the last time you deloaded or even happened to take a week off from heavy lifting because u went on vacation or something?
And I am officially beginning studying NOW.
Everything is in check... and double checked.al420 said:Pumps can come from a lot of places... Potassium in check? H2O in check? I like to watch those when I think something other than my workload caused the issue. For example, Dbol gives me wicked back pumps, but no shin pumps...
On the deads...Why x8?

Thanks. I'll be Keeping a close eye on your progress. My guinea pig, so to speak.Sarge_ said:HiDn: I hope it helps when you need it
Everything is in check... and double checked.
Potassium supp., grapefruit juice, sweetatoes... lots of pottass in my diet
h20 will be around 2 gallons before I retire
diet clean as a whistle... could be some left over goodies in my system from the weekend though.... sunday I was on point except for the pancakes and eggs with real syrup in the am before I trained
No reason other than lighter load.
I won't be doing any barbell shrugs at all this week.

Hey T!treilin said:Just dropping in!!!
I love Rock & Roll.al420 said:What kind of roller do you have bro? I just got a new one last night and it is like a rock compared to my gyms.

http://www.oaktreept.com/id10.html#Ma Roller self massage toolal420 said:What kind of roller do you have bro? I just got a new one last night and it is like a rock compared to my gyms.
Kabeetz said:My gym has a jukebox but it only plays REO Speedwagon, Milli Vanilli and the "Just One Of The Guys" Soundtrack![]()
hehe.


cool... yeah I used foam rollers before this one.al420 said:I got this one:
http://optp.com/index.cfm/pageid/243
Are you using the 'spine' roller ...didn't see anything else in the link you sent.
I'm starvingSarge_ said:week 14 Day 3 - deload
20 minutes low intensity treadmill walk... just a tad over a mile.
cookin' up 6lbs of chicken tonight, yayI'm starving
Holy crap! That looks like some knd of weird marital aid device.Sarge_ said:cool... yeah I used foam rollers before this one.
Yes, the MA roller.
this is from another site, mine doesn't have the black rings on the end:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/bodylogic_1936_16119769
Yup, it's rock maple... hard wood..> DEEEEEP tissue... it'll tickle your stomach.
lol, there have been half a dozen or so posts in the past few pages where I had to resist making a comment like this.HiDnGoD said:Holy crap! That looks like some knd of weird marital aid device.
I should stress that the wood device is pressed on one's body and not inHiDnGoD said:Holy crap! That looks like some knd of weird marital aid device.
Thanks, man. I'm thinking now, that I'll prolly go with option 3. I'm still not quite ready for a break, maybe in another week or 2.Cynical Simian said:lol, there have been half a dozen or so posts in the past few pages where I had to resist making a comment like this.
Regarding your anticipated deload, there are a lot of ways to do it, so don't feel compelled to follow what sarge does exactly. Like he said, the main thing is just to cut back in some way. How you're feeling and what you're planning to do afterwards will play a role in what you decide to do. Here are some examples of common deload techniques for a pretty standard "heavy day" rep/set scheme of 5x5 (same weight):
1. Work up to one top set of 5 with the 5x5 weight. Obviously, this should be fairly easy since the weight you're using for 5 sets of 5 is lower than your 5RM.
2. Do 3x3 with the 5x5 weight.
3. Do all 25 reps with 20-30% less weight than usual.
All three work if you just want a light week to recover before starting to ramp back up on a higher-volume setup. 2 might be good if you want to keep the volume low and continue pushing triples for a few weeks (a la the intensity phase of the cookie-cutter dual-factor 5x5), while 3 might be preferable if you want a mental/physical break from higher-intensity (%1RM) work.
Thanks 4 the visuals LOLSarge_ said:Hey T!
Roller is awesome!! ... one observation for you to analyze (h20 was in abundance, or so i thought) ... i woke up pretty dang stiff this morning *keep it in context! lol*, I thought that was odd. could just be my body recouping from overtraining too though I guess.
HiDn: lol... my pleasure. Just remember 50%ish... just cutting everything back and taking out the fluff is all that matters really.
Yeah i did it late, just before bed.treilin said:Thanks 4 the visuals LOL
Seriously now...
Did u roll before bed? You can always do to much as well. After you roll stretch your back, side twists and stuff may get a pop or two. Can also do some twisting on the roller once it sets in to get in even deeper. Speaking of which I need to hop on mine tonight! 2 days with no rollin!!
Well you may eventually SBT's back never cracked before until I showed her.Sarge_ said:Yeah i did it late, just before bed.
Did a crunch to get up and just reached down for my toes and stretched for a momment... felt goooooood.
I didn't stretch my back like I do after training ... some overhead... some "hugging" (rhomb) type stretches. shoulda done that, huh.
No twisting to try and pop, never works for me. Currently the only out of whack area is mid - neck. Chrio said today that i had a really tight muscle mid back, seemed like he was pressing right above my right erector before he cracked me 4 times along my back then neck.
yeah my lower back is still damn tighttreilin said:Well you may eventually SBT's back never cracked before until I showed her.
It was always to tight.
Yeah do some stretching next time.... knees to chest, twists, etc...
no orientation rings a bell 'above right erector'
3 erectors on each side of the back that run the length, some even up into the neck. So it could have been your erector.
Did you try explaining that some chick you know from teh interwebs is going to be pinching your ass at a bodybuilding gathering in a week and a half? I'm sure they'd understand.Sarge_ said:I'm being constantly teased with bad food... today it was pizza and snickers bar... people trying to fatten me up..WTF!
LOL, yeah I can see how that would garner some restraint.Cynical Simian said:lol @ including "2 walks to the fountain" for lack of other stuff to put in the workout entry.
Did you try explaining that some chick you know from teh interwebs is going to be pinching your ass at a bodybuilding gathering in a week and a half? I'm sure they'd understand.
it was lacking serious depth in my journalCynical Simian said:lol @ including "2 walks to the fountain" for lack of other stuff to put in the workout entry.
Did you try explaining that some chick you know from teh interwebs is going to be pinching your ass at a bodybuilding gathering in a week and a half? I'm sure they'd understand.
... No, no one understands at all...
Cynical Simian said:lol @ including "2 walks to the fountain" for lack of other stuff to put in the workout entry.
Cynical Simian said:Did you try explaining that some chick you know from teh interwebs is going to be pinching your ass at a bodybuilding gathering in a week and a half?
but, but... I fast walkedKabeetz said:I was gonna post that before but I didn't have the heart LOL Sorry Sarge, but water fountain trips do not count as cardio, it is not up for debate.![]()
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