Sales People Party Tits..No Doubt!!

[THeMaCHinE]

I'd consider sales again if there really are sales positions as you describe rudedawg.

Question, do you have to develop business in your line of sales? Cold-calling, referrals, etc... Or does the business come to you (or is it presold by another and you are more or less an AE)?

 

[nitlyan]

I never did sales. I bought a lot of shit as an IT manager.

My beef with the profession of sales is that you rarely learn other aspects of business.

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest. I just signed a six figure book deal, I am negotiating contracts with two of the largest netowrk hardware comapnies to develop a journal and attend conferences for them, and I have close to signing a deal to provide educational materials for several school districts.

I sell my ass off. But always my own shit. My admin assistants combined make $85 per hour. Interesting.

Your secretaries make $42.50/hr?????? I call bullshit. That's all I have to say. Post your deal on the board...let's see the contract? I do six figure deals while talking on my cell in the bathroom. You don't impress me, son.

 

[nitlyan]

I'd consider sales again if there really are sales positions as you describe rudedawg.

Question, do you have to develop business in your line of sales? Cold-calling, referrals, etc... Or does the business come to you (or is it presold by another and you are more or less an AE)?

It's all a lot of networking. Cold calls are worthless. You need to figure out the art of networking with the right people. Charity events. Certain ground breaking ceremonies for some new company, etc...It is an art and once you profect it money is easy as pie to make. Seriously. And it's fun as hell to do.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Your secretaries make $42.50/hr?????? I call bullshit. That's all I have to say. Post your deal on the board...let's see the contract? I do six figure deals while talking on my cell in the bathroom. You don't impress me, son.

There are four of them, and they often travel. They are true Admin assistants. Any family members need a job?

You do six figure deals with other people's shit. Big deal. If you weren't, SOMEONE ELSE WOULD. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of people selling circuits and making money.

I create, market, and sell my own shit. You're a good salesman. I am a creator and innovator. Therein lies the difference. (Plus you're a typical sales asshole).

Peace

 

[nitlyan]

There are four of them, and they often travel. They are true Admin assistants. Any family members need a job?

You do six figure deals with other people's shit. Big deal. If you weren't, SOMEONE ELSE WOULD. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of people selling circuits and making money.

I create, market, and sell my own shit. You're a good salesman. I am a creator and innovator. Therein lies the difference. (Plus you're a typical sales asshole).

Peace

MTS, you still don't get it. Did I stutter. I own my own telecom consulting company. I analyse WAN's for large businesses. They pay me $85 an hour to give them my opinion and input. I bill over 300 hours a month. Do the math. PEACE.......I sell my own shit! Get it. Maybe the circuits I suggest are someone elses, but it is my company and my idea. All of my clients save thousands a month at each location after I consult them. They love me!! Sorry you have a bad taste in your mouth about salespeople. Did a salesman gouge you for his highest price. PROBABLY!

 

[FreakMonster]

There are four of them, and they often travel. They are true Admin assistants. Any family members need a job?

You do six figure deals with other people's shit. Big deal. If you weren't, SOMEONE ELSE WOULD. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of people selling circuits and making money.

I create, market, and sell my own shit. You're a good salesman. I am a creator and innovator. Therein lies the difference. (Plus you're a typical sales asshole).

Peace

Hook me up!! I feel like a peon making alot less than $42.00/hr.

I guess that University Degree didn't do shit for me :-(

 

[rudedawg]

I'd consider sales again if there really are sales positions as you describe rudedawg.

Question, do you have to develop business in your line of sales? Cold-calling, referrals, etc... Or does the business come to you (or is it presold by another and you are more or less an AE)?

I haven't ever cold called and never will. All of my business is from leads or referrals. Referrals call me...... I either e-mail the leads or call them. I buy the leads from a source. So they are not "mine" I mean in Matt's definition I didn't manufacture them. LMAO

The business comes to me or I go to it but I don't go unless I know for a fact that they are giving me a check. I also hav e agents that write for me so I get an override on their business.

In the insurance market it is very competitive.....you either lead or die......or get by miserably. I am damn good a t what I do and I busted my ass for 5 years to get to where I am at now. And with the products I market I can sleep at night knowing I am not fucking my clients over to make a buck.

 

[mrbill]

Interesting thread....good points on both sides, but before everyone gets all excited and thinks they are going to get rich in sales remember that for every nitlyan there are a hundred salesmen who are just scraping by. It takes a certain kind of personality to be really good at sales, but if you have the nack there is definately great income potential. Unfortuanately, I'm not really a "chummy, buddy-buddy" kind of guy so sales is not my thing.