Review My Cycle: Tren, Mast, Var, SARMS.. with no Test or SERM

[ZxzzZyzz]

What's up guys, been reading on this site for years. Have never posted, basically just use the search bar to answer any questions I may have. This time, I plan on doing something a little different based on the research I have done.

I am 26, 5'10 200 pounds, right around 10% body fat. I have ran 3 cycles in the past. First was Test and Anavar, and the last two were Test, Tren, and Anavar. Also have 2 Sarms stacks under my belt.

For my next cycle, I plan to combine Steroids with Sarms, as well as not running any test with it. I also do not plan on using a SERM in PCT. Tell me what you think about this before I start.. which will be on Sunday.

CYCLE:
1-8 Tren Ace, 100mg/eod
1-8 Mast Prop, 150mg/eod
1-8 Anavar, 80mg/day
1-8 Proviron, 100mg/day
1-8 Caber, .5 mg/e3d
1-8 S-4, 50-75mg/day
1-8 GW-50, 20mg/day
1-8 RS Transdermal
1-8 HCGenerate
1-8 Unleashed
1-8 N2Guard
1-8 Forged Liver
7-8 HCG, 500iu/eod

PCT:
9-14 Forma Stanzol
9-16 Test Stack No. 17
9-16 Unleashed/Post Cycle, Double dosed
9-16 MHO Poppers
9-14 D-AA
9-12 MK-2877, 25mg/day
9-12 GW-50, 20mg/day
9-16 N2Guard
9-12 Tudca

Please do not tell me this is going to be a disaster.

 

[dylangemelli]

i don't have a big problem with the fact you don't want test with tren... i have seen many guys have success in doing so and adding in sarms with it will be excellent as well as with mast... i would never consider running tren without a serm in pct though bro... that's quite scary... i would also have aromasin on hand as well... i would run hcgenerate ES on cycle and then run the regular version in pct... here is what i would recommend for pct...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
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[Jbranken]

That's what's up! I don't think it will be a disaster bro. Like Dylan said, it is a little risky not using a SERM with tren but you won't be doing it alone I'm starting up tren in the next few weeks and I won't be using a SERM with it either. I think you've covered every base here and you'll have awesome success with it. I like the sarms addition too, great choice. It will really enhance the cycle

 

[RickRock13]

What's up guys, been reading on this site for years. Have never posted, basically just use the search bar to answer any questions I may have. This time, I plan on doing something a little different based on the research I have done.

I am 26, 5'10 200 pounds, right around 10% body fat. I have ran 3 cycles in the past. First was Test and Anavar, and the last two were Test, Tren, and Anavar. Also have 2 Sarms stacks under my belt.

For my next cycle, I plan to combine Steroids with Sarms, as well as not running any test with it. I also do not plan on using a SERM in PCT. Tell me what you think about this before I start.. which will be on Sunday.

CYCLE:
1-8 Tren Ace, 100mg/eod
1-8 Mast Prop, 150mg/eod
1-8 Anavar, 80mg/day
1-8 Proviron, 100mg/day
1-8 Caber, .5 mg/e3d
1-8 S-4, 50-75mg/day
1-8 GW-50, 20mg/day
1-8 RS Transdermal
1-8 HCGenerate
1-8 Unleashed
1-8 N2Guard
1-8 Forged Liver
7-8 HCG, 500iu/eod

PCT:
9-14 Forma Stanzol
9-16 Test Stack No. 17
9-16 Unleashed/Post Cycle, Double dosed
9-16 MHO Poppers
9-14 D-AA
9-12 MK-2877, 25mg/day
9-12 GW-50, 20mg/day
9-16 N2Guard
9-12 Tudca

Please do not tell me this is going to be a disaster.

I like your plan bro, and it appears well laid out in both cycle and PCT.

Everything looks covered well to me. I think your PCT looks just fine and you won't even need a SERM with the great products you have in it.

With Test Stack 17, Unleashed/post cycle, formastanzol, and MHO poppers recovery should go excellent and the ostarine may help you make gains in PCT.

Good luck and hit me up if you need any discounts on Test Stack

 

[stevesmi]

the RS you are using is just like using test anyway.. its DHEA based

 

[gymrat827]

idk....transderm, HCG, hcgenerate, unleashed & tren....no serm....???

why no serm?? shit even 2wks of clomid would do quite a bit for a re start of LH/FSH.

yes it should work, no i would not do it myself.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ I've recovered just fine my last 2 tren cycles with no SERM using T stack RX.

SERM's give you a temporary bounce in your numbers and then you crash back down.. there was a guy who posted in the TRT section who used clomid and his T levels went to 900 and his LH went to 8.. and when he came off his T went down to 190 and now he is on TRT at 22 years old. point is SERM's do nothing for you except manipulate your numbers while they are in your system .. do they work? YES THEY WORK!! but only while in your system, and then when you stop taking them then you are fucked.. Nelson was right all along, and trust me me and nelson have disagreed about a lot of things over the yeras. I have always advocated using a small dose of a SERM in pct, but now I do not anymore and my recovery is smoother cause I don't get the hormone roller coaster a SERM gives you

the best PCT is either using phyto or T stack Rx and running them for 4 weeks 1 week off and then 4 more weeks.. this is all i run these days and it works great.

 

[ZxzzZyzz]

I have some Test E left over from a year ago, and some Clomid as well.

So if it ends up I need them, I have them ready. But I want to see how it goes with out them. My hope is that the RS Transdermal, HCGenerate, and Unleashed will work as a good substitute for it. And the Proviron and Masteron should also help with any libido sides that may happen.

I agree with Steve about the Clomid, about how it just manipulates your test levels. I want to see for myself how I can recover without it. From my research, Forma is suppose to be an all around AI, and also work a bit as a SERM by blocking estrogen from the hypothalamus. We will see how it goes.

Thank you guys for the replies, nice to know some of you think this won't be a disaster.

 

[dylangemelli]

I have some Test E left over from a year ago, and some Clomid as well.

So if it ends up I need them, I have them ready. But I want to see how it goes with out them. My hope is that the RS Transdermal, HCGenerate, and Unleashed will work as a good substitute for it. And the Proviron and Masteron should also help with any libido sides that may happen.

I agree with Steve about the Clomid, about how it just manipulates your test levels. I want to see for myself how I can recover without it. From my research, Forma is suppose to be an all around AI, and also work a bit as a SERM by blocking estrogen from the hypothalamus. We will see how it goes.

Thank you guys for the replies, nice to know some of you think this won't be a disaster.

i don't see it as a disaster at all bro... its nice to see that you've done your research... i applaud that...

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[ZxzzZyzz]

haha, well thanks! I am starting on Sunday so I already have everything I need. I'll still check out the sale though and maybe pick up some stuff for the SARMSs bridge after the cycle!