Retaining gain on oral steroids.

[Necrothep]

This is for a friend who had à needle phobia. Hé has been training very seriously for the past three years, obtained really impressive gain on it's own. He tried m1t, winstrol, turabolin and had the gutts to do injection with deca durabolin and test on 12weeks. He wish to get a little boost of 10-15lbs (remaining gains) without injection, only orals.
I need Help to find something that wont kill his liver while meeting his gains.
I thought of suggesting him 8weeks androbole with amidrex and 4weeks of anavar with creatine. Then appropriation pct (clomid and nolvadex)

He's 25, 5"9, 185lbs around 13%bf.

 

[joeblow12345]

That's a bad idea all around. The pct is terrible and gaining and keeping 15 lbs on an oral cycle is very difficult. A solid 5 lbs is feasible if diet and training is on point. It's a good idea to go into a cycle with realistic goals and 5 lbs kept after is realistic over an 8 week oral run. You may gain 15-20 but its mostly water and fat. The only oral I've seen people gain 15 lbs of muscle on and keep is superdrol. If you want a decent lean mass cycle then I'd go with Tbol or var. I'd run it like this.

1-8 Tbol or var 60- 80 mg day
1-8 n2guard
4-8 hcgenerate
1-8 forma or ai of your choice

Pct 8-12
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa

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Throughout cycle I recommend n2slin and gear for better nutrient usage.


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[Zolty8]

I have a related question, after the cycle is over how long should one keep his diet at bulking macros? Throughout PCT? Drop to maintenance right away? Gradually ramp back down?

 

[Necrothep]

Thank you for the detailled output and will bring it to him!