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[thedon_83]

I was after some opinions please, I want to know if people think I should start cycling, Some stats -

23yrs old
250lb
Training solid for 5yrs, on and off for 10yrs
Diet is good 4000plus calories daily

(I am training for strength, thats why I left out BF%)

 

[galaxy]

Ill go against the grain and tell you that i think 30mgs of dbol ed would be a good first cycle. Or you could do 250mgs of enanthate. Since your just going for strength i wouldn't advocate going to overboard on the doses at first. You dont want to get big too fast not to mention you may pack on 30lbs being a first time user.

 

[juicer99]

I agree, maybe 500mg a week but no more. Maybe the 30mg of dbol as well, just make sure you have the proper ancilliaries on hand.

 

[BigCracker]

Call Jenny before you have a heart attack. lol

 

[thezan]

That you on the left?? Making me sick how much weight you'd be pressin if you went on!
Low dose of test would be a good first cycle. If you train for strenght you may want to look into Dbol-I think you'd be impressed.

Maybe something like 300-400mg Test E for 10 weeks and 20-30mg of Dbol for first 4 weeks.

 

[ProtienFiend]

Call Jenny before you have a heart attack. lol

Ill see if I can clear this up a bit.

You already weigh 250lbs. If you have a good cycle you may gain another 20. That puts you up to 270lbs. Where do you plan to go from there??

2nd, How tall are you?

You may seriously want to trim down a bit first then do a good cycle. Plus it will help you in lifts because you will be able to pack on more quality mass.

PF

 

[petpre61]

That you on the left??

http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=PH-SBTH

 

[silverbackn]

What your bodyfat is will affect what you should run to some extent. If your bodyfat is higher controlling your estrogen will be more of a concern.

 

[thedon_83]

Thanks for the replies, In answer to a couple of questions, Im about 6'4 and I estimate about 15% BF, I can still just about make out my Abs

270lbs would be nice, Id like to go on to about 300lb that would be even better

I think I'll go for the basic 30mg D-bol and 250 test e

 

[Top-Notch]

for good stength.

week 1-10 Dbol 30mg (maybe 40mg(MAX) later on)
week 1-10 Deca 400mg

 

[solidspine]

I would not do d-bol on my first cycle.


You’re a big guy simply

Do deca and test, anti-e, PCT.

Eat like a horse, you will see great results, do d-bol after you have done 3 cycles.


Put on some gains that you will keep,

DECA, or PRIMO and TEST

 

[acneman]

I would not do d-bol on my first cycle.


You’re a big guy simply

Do deca and test, anti-e, PCT.

Eat like a horse, you will see great results, do d-bol after you have done 3 cycles.


Put on some gains that you will keep,

DECA, or PRIMO and TEST

i gotta go with solid on this one
this guys pretty big to be going on the standard first cycle advice
id go 500mg tes/250mg to 300mg deca per week
23 is the bare minimum age in my opinion but i think he could probably gain another 8/10 in the next year natty

 

[Ulter]

Dbol is good first, second, or any cycle. It's the most fun you can have with your clothes on. So I suggest you try it.

500/300 is a good low dose cycle to start. I would recommend 750/400 for a first cycle basically because you only get to have one first cycle and it's your opportunity to grow the most. Use AIFM throughout the cycle and PCT. Use HCG during the last week of your cycle. Use the test two weeks longer than the deca. Use Clomid for two weeks after you finish the HCG.