Read this volume lovers and learn something

[Arnold'sApprentice]

"The volume-training approach (for example, a program encompassing four exercises per body part and five sets per exercise) favored by most bodybuilders never made sense to me. When I was an amateur, I thought that the volume-training champs were more experienced and perhaps knew something I hadn't yet learned. Once I became a professional and began to mix with other pros, and then observed and talked to some of the champs who use volume training, I discovered that there's not a lot of rhyme or reason for the way they train. It's just accepted that 'excess leads to success' and time spent in the gym equates to quicker gains. Question the volume-training champs on why exactly they do the specific amount of work they do, ask them to justify it logically and physiologically, and they won't really be able to tell you."

Dorian Yates

 

[Debaser]

Yet most people seem to think that just because someone is big or strong they must know what they're talking about. Many of these guys succeed IN SPITE of their training, not BECAUSE of it. Incredible genetics and/or lots of gear make this possible.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Steroids.......Natural training is unknown to most pros

 

[Arnold'sApprentice]

Yet most people seem to think that just because someone is big or strong they must know what they're talking about. Many of these guys succeed IN SPITE of their training, not BECAUSE of it. Incredible genetics and/or lots of gear make this possible.

EXACTLY...they still get the one/two sets needed..they just do 3 more pointless sets per exercise. It's their genetics/gear that allow them to grow in spite of what they do.

As for:

'When I was an amateur, I thought that the volume-training champs were more experienced and perhaps knew something I hadn't yet learned.'


Maybe a few of you need to register this before ya rag on casualbb or debaser for not being experienced enough!

 

[WalkingBeast]

Yet most people seem to think that just because someone is big or strong they must know what they're talking about. Many of these guys succeed IN SPITE of their training, not BECAUSE of it. Incredible genetics and/or lots of gear make this possible.

I agree. Ive never had respect for the juiced up guys, who didnt hold out til thier natural potential or atleast close to it. Ive seen alot of lazy fucks blow up on gear. Thinking they are some kind of authority on lifting. I have no respect for that. Youve got Mr.O's on the opposite side of the spectrum using higher volume as well. These guys probabally wouldve grown regardless with all the gear they take. Still I dont believe one routine works for everyone, without juice anyway.

 

[casualbb]

Two words: diminishing returns.

For one single bout of exercise, will 10 sets make you grow more than 2? YES!

But like everything it's a balancing act. Can you do 10 sets and train again in 3 days? Probably not.

But if you can keep your frequency the same while increasing volume, you will grow more. The key is to find exactly how much you can handle without overtraining and continually skirt that border. Then gains come like holy jeez.

 

[Slyder190]

But if you can keep your frequency the same while increasing volume, you will grow more. The key is to find exactly how much you can handle without overtraining and continually skirt that border. Then gains come like holy jeez. [/B][/QUOTE]

Dude what?

 

[casualbb]

What, dude? Do the most volume you can without overtraining.

 

[rjl296]

But if you can keep your frequency the same while increasing volume, you will grow more. The key is to find exactly how much you can handle without overtraining and continually skirt that border. Then gains come like holy jeez.

Dude what? [/B][/QUOTE]

gotta find the happy medium

 

[b fold the truth]

Yet most people seem to think that just because someone is big or strong they must know what they're talking about. Many of these guys succeed IN SPITE of their training, not BECAUSE of it. Incredible genetics and/or lots of gear make this possible.

Glad to see you post and use the words like "most" and "many".

I have Dorian's book Blood and Guts...good book.

B True