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Rapist Spared Jail For Having Sex With 10 Year-Old Girl - Judge Says She Looked Older

the-short-one said:
...and this makes me thankful that I have a boy. lolol


...but I worry about that, too. I'm hoping that by the time he reaches "that age" - they'll have a reliable male birth control method available.

Think about what you are saying, dear lady.

If the circumstances were just that we are talking about two dopey kids that laid down and got pregnant... would you rather be mother to the mother of that baby?.... or mother to the son who impregnated her? Let's say that she is a crazy pscycho broad that your son was just trying to get some touch from?.... THAT BABY IS STILL YOUR GRANDCHILD. And the mother is a whack-job that uses the baby to fuck with your family for the sheer pleasure of it?

Me, I would rather be able to TRY to keep my daughter somewhat close to me so that I could help guide the family somehow... Which in my case, I wouldn't even have THAT option...

Just food for thought. :)
 
Holy crap. How would a 10 year old even know how to seduce someone?

18 seems so young to me anymore, I don't think I'd find a 16 year old attractive. Damn. That's just wierd all around.
 
jnevin said:
Holy crap. How would a 10 year old even know how to seduce someone?

18 seems so young to me anymore, I don't think I'd find a 16 year old attractive. Damn. That's just wierd all around.


Here is some eye-opening info fer ya then:

The AMA has released statistics of alarmingly increasing numbers of patients as young as the age of TEN with sexually transmitted diseases in their mouths and throats. Apparently, it is an accepted "truth" amongst our CHILDREN that oral sex is not sex (I suppose we can thank Bill Clinton for this LOL). Instead of "spin the bottle" suburban kids have "chicken parties" named so because of the up and down bobbing motion of the girls' heads on the boys penises....

That's right.... TEN YEAR OLDS in "very nice" communities.
 
redguru said:
Is 16 the age of consent in that province? If so, he should get a pass. that was the age she presented to him. Women are maturing (physically) more rapidly these days, tough call.
Yes, at 16 you can marry and procreate but neither drive nor vote. I can only surmise that when presented with a guilty verdict or plea that there's a set range of punishment and the judge has no discretion to step outside of it. Presumably he gave him the lowest sentence he could.

I think we still refer to Wales as a country. :)
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Think about what you are saying, dear lady.

If the circumstances were just that we are talking about two dopey kids that laid down and got pregnant... would you rather be mother to the mother of that baby?.... or mother to the son who impregnated her? Let's say that she is a crazy pscycho broad that your son was just trying to get some touch from?.... THAT BABY IS STILL YOUR GRANDCHILD. And the mother is a whack-job that uses the baby to fuck with your family for the sheer pleasure of it?

Me, I would rather be able to TRY to keep my daughter somewhat close to me so that I could help guide the family somehow... Which in my case, I wouldn't even have THAT option...

Just food for thought. :)

actually, I was just rambling on in regards to sex and teenager's in general - my thoughts didn't really have much to do with the above topic.

I know what I was like as a teenager - my mother probably would have died of shock a long time ago had she known 1/2 the things I did. Young women develope a lot earlier than young men...and a lot of these girls act out as adults without fully knowing the results their actions will bring.

Boys, for the most part, don't go around trying to act older in order to get with women twice their age. lolol (not saying all girls do this - but the number of them that do is alarming.)

What I worry about most with boys is that they DO think with their johnsons and are just as responsible for the high rate of teen pregnancies as teen girls are. If I had a daughter, I would try to educate her in regards to sex/safety/abstinence/etc - but I would also take the precaution of putting her on some for of birth control.

Education would be the same for my boy, but so far - we lack a reliable method of birth control for boys besides condoms.
 
the-short-one said:
actually, I was just rambling on in regards to sex and teenager's in general - my thoughts didn't really have much to do with the above topic.

I know what I was like as a teenager - my mother probably would have died of shock a long time ago had she known 1/2 the things I did. Young women develope a lot earlier than young men...and a lot of these girls act out as adults without fully knowing the results their actions will bring.

Boys, for the most part, don't go around trying to act older in order to get with women twice their age. lolol (not saying all girls do this - but the number of them that do is alarming.)

What I worry about most with boys is that they DO think with their johnsons and are just as responsible for the high rate of teen pregnancies as teen girls are. If I had a daughter, I would try to educate her in regards to sex/safety/abstinence/etc - but I would also take the precaution of putting her on some for of birth control.

Education would be the same for my boy, but so far - we lack a reliable method of birth control for boys besides condoms.

Feel you on that one. One can encourage abstinence all they want as if they all forgot what it was like to be a horny pubescent, totally freaked out and unable to control their thoughts and often times having even more difficulty controlling subsequent actions as THEY ARENT THINKING...

Too many people talk smack, "Well you shouldn't have been screwing around in the first place." As if this sort of monday morning quarterbacking is going to help the situation in any way shape or form. :rolleyes:

It is sooooooooooooo important for parents to talk FREELY AND OPENLY to their kids regardless of gender about sex, diseases, birth control, drugs - SELF-RESPECT, not giving into peer pressure.... blah, blah, blah.

Good God, so many of these kids just want some guidance and attention.
 
For those of you with adolescent female children or relatives, I'd recommend reading up on HPV vaccine and Gardasil.

Basically, early sexual congress increases the likelyhood of later cervical cancer. The vaccine makes it safe for girls to have early sexual relations. Safe, at least, in the sense that it removes the possibility of cervical cancer from this cause.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Here is some eye-opening info fer ya then:

The AMA has released statistics of alarmingly increasing numbers of patients as young as the age of TEN with sexually transmitted diseases in their mouths and throats. Apparently, it is an accepted "truth" amongst our CHILDREN that oral sex is not sex (I suppose we can thank Bill Clinton for this LOL). Instead of "spin the bottle" suburban kids have "chicken parties" named so because of the up and down bobbing motion of the girls' heads on the boys penises....

That's right.... TEN YEAR OLDS in "very nice" communities.


Jesus. :worried:
 
p0ink said:
Rapist spared jail as judge agrees girl, 10, looked older
By Ben Quinn
Last Updated: 8:15am BST 05/04/2007

A man who raped a 10-year-old girl was spared a jail sentence yesterday after a High Court judge agreed that the victim looked older.

Describing the case as "wholly exceptional", Mr Justice Roderick Evans said he understood why Liam Edgecombe, a 20-year-old painter, had thought that the child was 16 when they had sex last year.

Edgecombe, who was charged with rape, had entered a guilty plea on a basis accepted by the prosecution - that he believed she was 16, that she was presented as a person of that age and that he was entirely shocked to find out she was only 10.

He was granted a conditional discharge for 18 months but, apart from having to register with the police as a sex offender, no further punishment was imposed on him.

Swansea Crown Court heard how the girl was in the care of a local authority when she was taken on a shopping trip to a branch of Tesco on November 24 last year. Chris Clee, prosecuting, said she pretended to go to the lavatory and took her chance to "disappear".

That night she met Edgecombe outside a pub in the centre of Haverfordwest, west Wales, and he invited her back to his nearby flat in Hill Street, where they had intercourse twice.

Mr Clee said Edgecombe raised the subject of the girl's age but she asked him: "Does it matter?"

He said there was no doubt the girl consented to sex but because of her age the offence amounted to rape.

The following day police spotted her in the centre of the town and she was returned to care workers. She told them what had happened but refused to co-operate with the police inquiry, although officers were able to trace Mr Edgecombe because the girl had mentioned his first name to a social worker.

He admitted what had happened and was "visibly traumatised" on being told the girl was only 10, according to his barrister, Janet Gedrych.

The painter also became so upset that police granted him bail on condition that he leave his flat and go to live with his mother.

"This is an exceptional case," said Miss Gedrych, who added that her client was "embarrassed and ashamed".

Judge Evans viewed photographs of the girl before deciding on a non-custodial sentence, and told the accused: "She was a girl of 10 and you are a man of 20. Those bald facts do not properly represent the true facts of this case.

"The prosecution accepts that you believed she was 16 and that that belief was reasonable. She was looking for a man and got what she wanted."
rofl!

its almost as if he was the one who got raped...

how the fuck does a parent let a 10 year old go like that? she probably wasnt a virgin either....fuggin weird world.

that guys still a fucking retard though...i think the case was handled pretty well
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Shocking... I feel for both the guy and child in this case. No "NORMAL" 10 year old child WANTS to have sex... they have some serious issues no doubt. The guy... damn, I don't know what to say. I don't think he should have been punished. He had consentual sex with a girl who he honestly thought was a willing partner - meaning that she was emotionally and mentally mature enough to decide that for herself.

TEN is nowhere near mentally or emotionally mature enough to consent to sexual relations. Poor kid probably just wanted some love and attention and doesn't have a clue what she is doing to herself.

I am speechless as my oldest daughter is engaging in EXACTLY this sort of behavior and there is little I can do to stop it. She is not much older than this girl....

*sigh*
the one thing u gota realize is the girl is still 10 years old...these laws are in place for a reason and as a 10 year old she isnt old enough to be doin that shit...hes partially at fault even tho he got completely fucked over
 
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