Puc said:
BUT in order to be addicted, you must take it CONSTANTLY for extended periods of time.You can ween yourself off, even then.
Heroin can be addicting after ONE USE
I know to many people who have taken for YEARS, CONSTANTLY, and needed nothing more than a weeks worth of xanax to quit.
So, I reiterate,
Heroin is more addicting than GHB, BY FAR
GHB is more addictive for the simple fact that you become more physically dependent on it than Heroin.
Thus harder to kick.
For Heroin:
"The development of physical dependence depends as much on regularity of use as on the amount actually used. In practice, the vast majority of addicts of not use heroin consistently on an ongoing basis. Less than half of the addicts who have been on the streets for more than a year will have used daily for that period (Johnson, 1978). They may voluntarily withdraw to reduce their tolerance, or the scene may be temporarily too much of a hassle, or they may have an important engagement such as a trial, at which an appearance of addiction would be undesirable. Or they may simply need a rest. During such times, physical dependence may virtually disappear, yet they will still think of themselves and describe themselves as addicts. In other cases, the users may never use enough drug to develop significant physical dependence. Senay (1986) estimates that between 25 per cent and 40 per cent of street addicts are not physically dependent. Nevertheless, such 'chippers' may wish to see themselves as addicts for reasons of their own, and will so describe themselves.
For GHB:
The effects of constant use of GHB may have some very negative physical and mental side effects. There are reports of very serious withdrawal symptoms including some reported deaths documented by Jo Ellen Dyer of the California Poison Control Center <
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n222/a02.html?397> and a collection of negative GHB-related info and forums can be found at Trinka Porrata's Project GHB <
http://www.ashesonthesea.com/ghb/>.
A good new document on addiction and treatment of GHB overuse was published in March 2001 by the Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse <
http://www.tcada.state.tx.us> detailing withdrawal symptoms and treatment guidelines. Definitely worth reading: GHB Withdrawal Syndrome <ghb_addiction2.pdf>. It has a good set of journal references at the bottom of the article.
Habituation
Many people enjoy the effects of GHB enough that they find themselves using it more frequently than they intended to or are comfortable with. Using GHB every weekend can turn into a few times a week or every night and can, for some people, turn into several times a day. People who find themselves using GHB daily or multiple times a day for periods of weeks or months often report that they have some difficulty ceasing use. Some people have also report that after using GHB daily for many months, strange psycho-physical effects, such as hearing bells constantly, were experienced.
Addiction
Physical withdawal symptoms appear in some people who stop using GHB after more than a few consecutive days of repeated use. Symptoms can include difficulty sleeping, anxiety, edginess, chest pain and tightness, muscle and bone aches, sensitivity to external stimuli (sound, light, touch), dysphoria, and mental dullness. The symptoms seem to last between a few days and 2 to 3 weeks as the body comes back into balance. We have received reports from a handful of individuals who have had difficulty ceasing use. For at least some percentage of regular users, the combination of mental habituation and physical withdrawal symptoms can lead to heavy use with great difficulty stopping.
GHB withdrawal occurs in most people who use it for more than one day in a row and the hangover from GHB use could possible be called a mild form of withdrawal, since the hangover can be treated with additional doses of GHB / 14b.
So how can you say Heroin is more addictive than GHB?
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