raiders kicker od's on GHB monday

[Nickerbocker]

GHB is really dangerous, ive had bad expierences with it and it has rewined two of my good friends lives. And yes too much ghb will cause someone to flop around on the floor, ive seen it. my friend took 4 caps at once. bad stuff

 

[Daeo]

Where's Fonz when you need him...

GHB is really dangerous, ive had bad expierences with it and it has rewined two of my good friends lives. And yes too much ghb will cause someone to flop around on the floor, ive seen it. my friend took 4 caps at once. bad stuff

Your friend is an idiot. Those who get into trouble with GHB are the ones with the "more is better mentality"...

 

[Trevdog]

I tend to agree. If your friend chugged a liter of vodka and passed out choking on his own vomit, would you say the vodka was "bad stuff".

There is a difference between careful use and abuse.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

I probably see more ignorant regurgitation about GHB than about any steroid. The media and government has so successfully mounted a witch hunt against this food (that's right, its a food)...that it is almost impossible to undo. The FDA's star expert witness in the case for legilating it as a Schedule 1 drug was forced to admit under oath that she had actually NEVER SEEN A SINGLE PATIENT that had overdosed on GHB alone. Not one. Anywhere. Ever. Always there is either another drug involved or an inaccuracy in the initial report. Can it kill you? Sure. So can Tylenol. GHB is one of the few substances that could appropriately be described as a wonderdrug, even though it occurs naturally in most of the meats that we eat, as well as in every living cell in our bodies. Additionally, the reports like the one cited here are not fully accurate. The 'siezures' caused by too much GHB are not siezures at all. It is a phenomenon refered to as clonis and is (in simple terms) a rhythmic twitching of an extremely relaxed muscle. A siezure is a result of a brain chemistry imbalance, not a muscular phenomenon. This substance has been shown time and time again to have fantastic medical applications, ranging from treatment of alcoholism to protecting a cell from radiation damage. It metabolizes into carbon dioxide and water and has absolutely no toxicity whatsoever. The lethal aspect of an extreme overdose is not a result of toxicity at all, but rather the result of either brachycardia or oxygen deprivation of the brain as a result thereof. The so called 'coma' that is induced has been shown to be a state of unarousability that, while registering in that regard as low as a four on the Glasgow Coma Scale, has some very significant differences than a trauma induced coma. The FDA has a vested interest in banning ANY substance that can effectively induce sleep or cause euphoria without any toxic side effects. Is it coincidence that tryptophan is also banned? Sleeping pills are the NUMBER ONE selling drug in the world. Over 61 million prescriptions for sleep aids were written last year. It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots here. You wanna tell me that this drug is dangerous. I will respond by saying that ANY drug is dangerous in the hands of a moron. GHB is a FANTASTIC drug/food. The New England Journal of Medicine has entry after entry about the benefits of this drug as well as repeated references to its total lack of toxicity. The real pisser here is the rush to the GHB alternatives such as 1,4 butandiol and the like, which are substances that eventually metabolize into GHB, but not always without toxicity. Also, the fact that most home brews of GHB are inferior to laboratory made GHB. Is it easy to make? Youbetcha. Do I advocate it? That would be illegal. What I do advocate is the education of the public so that we can make informed decisions about what to do to our bodies. The information is there, folks. Look it up.

 

[daddyrabbit]

GHB

This is the best summary of the facts I have seen. On the boards, you see constant discussion about how dangerous GHB is.

In fact, it is a wonderdrug. If you can control your own behavior, you can take it in reasonable amounts indefinitely with no harmful, toxic effect to your body. This is the only substance that can make that claim. Certainly alcohol is a slow destroyer of the body and liver as are prescription drugs.

The fact that this is a Schedule I substance is characteristic of a philosophy that presumes to legislate what is good or bad for people. And pot is more dangerous than alcohol..........right!

 

[shredz]

More dangerous than heroin??? Anything is dangerous in the hands of a fucking moron! G in moderation is fine.

 

[Lift or Die]

I probably see more ignorant regurgitation about GHB than about any steroid. The media and government has so successfully mounted a witch hunt against this food (that's right, its a food)...that it is almost impossible to undo. The FDA's star expert witness in the case for legilating it as a Schedule 1 drug was forced to admit under oath that she had actually NEVER SEEN A SINGLE PATIENT that had overdosed on GHB alone. Not one. Anywhere. Ever. Always there is either another drug involved or an inaccuracy in the initial report. Can it kill you? Sure. So can Tylenol. GHB is one of the few substances that could appropriately be described as a wonderdrug, even though it occurs naturally in most of the meats that we eat, as well as in every living cell in our bodies. Additionally, the reports like the one cited here are not fully accurate. The 'siezures' caused by too much GHB are not siezures at all. It is a phenomenon refered to as clonis and is (in simple terms) a rhythmic twitching of an extremely relaxed muscle. A siezure is a result of a brain chemistry imbalance, not a muscular phenomenon. This substance has been shown time and time again to have fantastic medical applications, ranging from treatment of alcoholism to protecting a cell from radiation damage. It metabolizes into carbon dioxide and water and has absolutely no toxicity whatsoever. The lethal aspect of an extreme overdose is not a result of toxicity at all, but rather the result of either brachycardia or oxygen deprivation of the brain as a result thereof. The so called 'coma' that is induced has been shown to be a state of unarousability that, while registering in that regard as low as a four on the Glasgow Coma Scale, has some very significant differences than a trauma induced coma. The FDA has a vested interest in banning ANY substance that can effectively induce sleep or cause euphoria without any toxic side effects. Is it coincidence that tryptophan is also banned? Sleeping pills are the NUMBER ONE selling drug in the world. Over 61 million prescriptions for sleep aids were written last year. It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots here. You wanna tell me that this drug is dangerous. I will respond by saying that ANY drug is dangerous in the hands of a moron. GHB is a FANTASTIC drug/food. The New England Journal of Medicine has entry after entry about the benefits of this drug as well as repeated references to its total lack of toxicity. The real pisser here is the rush to the GHB alternatives such as 1,4 butandiol and the like, which are substances that eventually metabolize into GHB, but not always without toxicity. Also, the fact that most home brews of GHB are inferior to laboratory made GHB. Is it easy to make? Youbetcha. Do I advocate it? That would be illegal. What I do advocate is the education of the public so that we can make informed decisions about what to do to our bodies. The information is there, folks. Look it up.

Very good post bro.

 

[FreakMonster]

more addictive than heroin???

are you kidding me?

talk about a pile of bullshit...

btw... you CAN wind up flaining around after ODing, but that is only if you are forced awake when you should be asleep...

BUT, twenty to one he had some pcp or coke too...

Yes GHB is MORE addictive than Heroin once you are hooked on it.

If you are a habitual user of GHB, I'm talking every single day you will be HOOKED. Once your hooked your body needs GHB to function and you can't just stop cold turkey because it WILL KILL YOU!!!!! I've seen it several times first hand. Withdrawals are a fucking nightmare. Withdrawal syptoms are hallucinations, shakes, insomnia, and rashes.

 

[Puc]

Yes GHB is MORE addictive than Heroin once you are hooked on it.

If you are a habitual user of GHB, I'm talking every single day you will be HOOKED. Once your hooked your body needs GHB to function and you can't just stop cold turkey because it WILL KILL YOU!!!!! I've seen it several times first hand. Withdrawals are a fucking nightmare. Withdrawal syptoms are hallucinations, shakes, insomnia, and rashes.

BUT in order to be addicted, you must take it CONSTANTLY for extended periods of time.You can ween yourself off, even then.

Heroin can be addicting after ONE USE

I know to many people who have taken for YEARS, CONSTANTLY, and needed nothing more than a weeks worth of xanax to quit.

So, I reiterate,

Heroin is more addicting than GHB, BY FAR

 

[FreakMonster]

BUT in order to be addicted, you must take it CONSTANTLY for extended periods of time.You can ween yourself off, even then.

Heroin can be addicting after ONE USE

I know to many people who have taken for YEARS, CONSTANTLY, and needed nothing more than a weeks worth of xanax to quit.

So, I reiterate,

Heroin is more addicting than GHB, BY FAR

You are correct that it must be taken constantly for extended periods of time to be become addicted but NOT ALL PEOPLE can ween off that easily.

True heroin can be addicting after one use but the withdrawal stage of GHB is much worse leading to death while with heroin the withdrawal stage is not as bad thus making GHB more addicting.