Protein before bed?

[*Bunny*]

fellas....cmon.....the whole carbs before bed = fat gain was debunked a long time ago...

One reason I do not like carbs before bed because it messes with my sleeping patterns & my body just does NOT run efficiently if I have them (complex form) before I hit the sack...

Carbs = glucose = brain food = Bunny not sleeping = Crabby boots

 

[Ulter]

The idea of no carbs after some certain hour because they "magically" turn to fat is silly. If you are energy deficient, your body will utilize them just fine.

Not silly at all. Insulin shuts down all fat burning. When you eat carbs at night you illicit an insulin response that will last long into the night and not only stop the fat burning but deposit those carbs into your fat cells because your muscle cells are not going to use them. So no, your body will not use them just fine.

 

[JKurz1]

Not silly at all. Insulin shuts down all fat burning. When you eat carbs at night you illicit an insulin response that will last long into the night and not only stop the fat burning but deposit those carbs into your fat cells because your muscle cells are not going to use them. So no, your body will not use them just fine.

NOT TRUE if you train in the evening brother......you need them!!!

 

[gymratforlife]

Agreed with Jkurz....read post #11 again, and again if you have to. Let it sink in. Energy deficient, it does not matter!

I agree with the calories in calories out deficiency equals fat loss theory also,just not too sure about the high carb high fat shake pwo.I need some time before I can swallow that one,I have been told different for way to long,but then again theories are made to be broken so who knows,were learning new stuff every day as we grow into this sport.

 

[*Bunny*]

NOT TRUE if you train in the evening brother......you need them!!!

Ulter didn't say anything about PWO carbs regarding PM training prior to bed.

 

[Ulter]

NOT TRUE if you train in the evening brother......you need them!!!

Yes and if you train at 3am you need them. But that's not what we're talking about. If you train at night it's all the more reason to use Glucorell with the PWO shake to clear the insulin faster so it's not there when you go bed.

 

[MASTERDUTCH]

Same question here - been taking an EAS shake for about 2-3 weeks - 18 grams of protein - Not sure If I notice a difference....

 

[JKurz1]

Yes and if you train at 3am you need them. But that's not what we're talking about. If you train at night it's all the more reason to use Glucorell with the PWO shake to clear the insulin faster so it's not there when you go bed.

I can get down to sub 6%, training at 5pm, having my shake at 630, my RICH carb/pro/fat meal at 830, and crashing very shortly thereafter....is it just me? Maybe, so do what works for you, but there is no magical cutoff period. People should NOT be afraid of solid, low gi, wholesome carbs....you need these fellas to build mass. Plain and simple. ANDDD.....I don't take no stinkn Glucorell..........it's all about balance.

 

[gymratforlife]

Glucorel is suposed to be glucosamine?

 

[Lifterforlife]

Not silly at all. Insulin shuts down all fat burning. When you eat carbs at night you illicit an insulin response that will last long into the night and not only stop the fat burning but deposit those carbs into your fat cells because your muscle cells are not going to use them. So no, your body will not use them just fine.

Give me a break! Protein can cause an insulin response quite nicely on its own. So, you should not have protein either if you are in an energy deficit? Please!