ProHormes | Legal Steroids?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ok fellas I've been around this board since 2002 and I've heard a lot of shit about prohormones so I never looked at them twice and always considered them bunk.

But recently a good buddy of mine from High School blew up like a fuckin balloon in less than two months. Me, being a AS user knew for sure he was on steroids. He had all the symptoms: Bloat, unnatural muscle gain (15lbs+ 8 weeks,) and crash without PCT.

I knew for sure he was on AS. But after talking to him I found out he took "sus500" which I'm sure some of you have heard of. Apparently there are a lot of retards at the gym prescribing these kind of supplements without PCT.

The problem is and from what I've researched is that these "prohormones" act in a similar way as regular steroids including all the side effects. The problem is while these hormones are legal the distributor doesn't want to make them illegal by recommending PCT.

It seems my friend now has a bad case of gyno and crashed hard after the cycle loosing a lot of his gains. While on the "cycle" he would say, "I love my chest" and I have to say for being a skinny guy he did have a big chest after the sus500 cycle.

I can clearly see he has a case of gyno but the store at the gym is telling him that he must do cardio after his cycle or his "chest" will turn into fat. Or so he thinks.

Now I hear more and more of these "legal" prohormones running around from beastdrol to sus500 and I'm sure there are a million others.

So what is the deal with these products? They obviously work. They ARE obviously steroids. Why are they shunned by true AS users? And why the hell are they legal?

Lastly since they are rising in popularity and high school kids all around the states who are legally purchasing them without proper PCT. So whats the solution?

 

[eClenbuterol]

Can't believe the supplier does not suggest PCT live and learn I guess.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So they basically are steroids converted in the body but which are more liver toxic because of the conversion.

So the risk would break down to
Misdemeanor/Felony charge VS Liver Toxicity

I know a lot of people that would choose Liver Toxicity anyday.

 

[devil deezy]

i took sus500 and gained 6lbs total with alot of mass gains but not much bloat then ended my third week and fouth week with dieselbolan and i still have two more weeks to go on diesel.... i hated sus for the massive back pumps throughout the day... hurt like hell!! diesel is much more tolerable and just an all around better product

 

[dabuffguy]

There are some compounds out there that are NOT Pro-hormones, but are legitimate anabolic steroids.

The superdrol are phera-plex compounds are still legal and are legit aas.

needto sells them in his stor under the name "Beastdrol" and "Dieselbolan".


Ask the many that have used them thus far, they are kick-ass products and deliver real results.

 

[needtogetaas]

true prohormones are NOT steroids themselves, they are analogs of steroids, basically they take a steroid molecule, methylate it(so that when taken orally it bypasses the liver on the first pass like dbol or anavar) and then change the compound slightly so that it itself is not a steroid, but the body metabolizes it as one so once taken it takes on the chemical properties of the steroid

the problem is that to do this to a steroid you make it more hepatotoxic(liver toxic) and due to it having to go through a conversion in the body, there is more aromatization(convertion from testosterone to estrogen) leading to more sides and less overall gains

basically these prohormones(even though most are illegal now depending on where you live) are an attempt to create a legal steroid but in doing so they cause more sides with less gains

Well ain't you wrong.

 

[needtogetaas]

OK well maybe when it comes to ProHormes you are right. But there is a difference between ProHormes and designer supplements. One needs conversion and the other does not. Sd,madol,epi,4-chlor and others need no conversion. Also not all good PH's are methylated

 

[kdc1023]

I took sus500 and i loved it(But I did a proper PCT afterwards) I gained around 20lbs and kept 17lbs on the cycle. I find it funny that he got Gyno from it though because the bottle says its non-aromatizing it actually helped me get rid of my past gyno when i took a test booster called "Testanate50". Im young and I have made some mistakes so i dont recommend taking it. I'm just saying these products aren't terrible you just should educate yourself on what you put in ur body before you do it.

 

[needtogetaas]

I took sus500 and i loved it(But I did a proper PCT afterwards) I gained around 20lbs and kept 17lbs on the cycle. I find it funny that he got Gyno from it though because the bottle says its non-aromatizing it actually helped me get rid of my past gyno when i took a test booster called "Testanate50". Im young and I have made some mistakes so i dont recommend taking it. I'm just saying these products aren't terrible you just should educate yourself on what you put in ur body before you do it.

It can cause what is known as rebound gyno. You can get gyno after the cycle is over because of the bounce back in the hormone loop. Well you are taking it it will lower your estrogen. Then when you come off it can some times bounce back higher.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Very interesting thanks for all the help. Needto I have much more respect for your game. 1up->