Primo -- The Misunderstood Steroid!

[Nelson Montana]

What does Unleashed have to do with recovery?? It will increase your free test which will help you keep your gains, but keeping gains is not recovering. As far as I know, once you stop using Unleashed, the increasements in free test will return to baseline.. If what I assume is correct, then it is not a recovery tool . Anything you use constantly cannot be a recovery tool in my opinion.. Hcg is a recovery tool because when you stop, your testicles wont shrink back and in most cases your body will start producing its own test without any exogenous support.

You use something, and if it helps you to reach homeostatis even after you stop, that s a recovery tool in my opinion.

Hope you can clarify this.

Thanks

UNLEASHED doesn't directly help HPTA recover. You know what does? NOTHING. The only thing you can do is maintain your gains while the body recovers naturally and in that regard, UNLEASHED is a huge advantage.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, do you think a test+primo cycle would be superior to test+anavar?

I have used test+anavar and liked the results. And I wasn't even cutting.

I am curious about primo though the thought of pinning more than twice a week scares me. I always get knots. If I could pin primo in the triceps/biceps or lats with less soreness that would be awesome. I have never injected more than 1.5ml in the quads and stay at 1ml for delt/pecs.

Similar results with less toxicity and adverse effect on lipids.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, would a good short cycle of primo be 6 weeks 400mg primo/500mg teste e? Maybe also run 6 weeks anavar with it? How bout pct for such a short cycle? How long off can you be before you redo another short cycle? Thanks. Just trying to understand primo as I think its gonna be in my next cycle.

It'd be fine I'm sure. PCT would be the same as always -- HCG, UNLEASHED, dex, POST CYCLE, followed by BRIDGE.

 

[soupeater]

The short cycle approach is meant to be an adjunct to natural training. PCT wouldn't be necessary and suppression would be minimal. I do believe I was being a bit too conservative -- not that it wouldn't work, but I realize most people want more out of their cycles. But I come from the days where cycles ran no longer than 6 weeks. Maybe that's why so many guys avoided problems down the road. These days with the supps available, I'm starting to think that mild , short cycles along with good PCT and the proper supps, you can make outstanding , safe gains.

So Nelson, if you were to revise your perfect short cycle, ala steroids for health way of usage, what would it be in terms of length, quantities, and PCT? Also what kind of gains would one be able to expect from the 3 week cycle approach as an adjunct to natural training? I'm sure not everyone who uses AAS is looking to really bulk up and get freaky huge. A lot of us might just want the 'fight club' body or Troy body of Brad Pitt and are looking for fairly conservative boost/shortcut/whatever you want to call it, additional help to speed training results up without packing on 25-30 pounds of bloated mass that will disappear a couple months after the cycle.

(for the record I guess I should state that I'm in my thirties, a healthy male, nowhere near my genetic potential but not looking to win any bodybuilding contests, just looking to get that Mens Health body)

all replies are much appreciated

 

[lartinos]

Short cycles are garbage for most anyone. Stay away!

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Old school 4 year bump...

I'm 37.. with a few cycles under my belt... Test, Tren, Deca, Winny, and Dbol experience... I'm 5'11 and 185lbs this morning.. probably sitting around 10 - 12% bf... Looking to harden up... and get more vascular...

I am thinking of running Primo and Prop @ 525mg (75mg a day each) for 12 and 14 weeks respectively... I'll likely throw in some var for the last 6 - 8 weeks at 60mg as well to see what's up...

I just want to see if the consensus is the same 4 years later...

 

[Cheppard]

I think if your gonna run primo use it as the main compound. Less test. And if running primo run it longer so why not use a longer ester test like cyp? Take ester weights into account with primo so shoot 600 mg plus. Watch your hair go bye bye at about 10 week Mark.

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[WolfpackAlpha]

This is a great primo thread...check out this profile on primo guys: What is Primobolan (Methenolone)? - Evolutionary.org
That should give more detail to those who want to keep researching.

 

[forexconsultant]

Glad someone bumped this...great info!

 

[stevesmi]

I think if your gonna run primo use it as the main compound. Less test. And if running primo run it longer so why not use a longer ester test like cyp? Take ester weights into account with primo so shoot 600 mg plus. Watch your hair go bye bye at about 10 week Mark.

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I agree.. and also make sure ur source is legit .. message me if u need help in that arena