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Primo -- The Misunderstood Steroid!
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needtogetaas
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Sick strength gains bro.
soupeater
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so whats the 2010 opinion for a primo/test conservative stack?
3-400 primo EW and 250 test (sustanon or..)
if one was to do a 3 weeker like NM suggests in his books what kind of PCT would be needed if any? would proviron be a good idea to supplement the stack and free up some more T? for a 3 week cycle would an oral kickstart of var be good or not needed?
TIA for replies. looking for a nice conservative stack that can be repeated several times with minimal sides (and minimal PCT if possible) for lean gains.
3-400 primo EW and 250 test (sustanon or..)
if one was to do a 3 weeker like NM suggests in his books what kind of PCT would be needed if any? would proviron be a good idea to supplement the stack and free up some more T? for a 3 week cycle would an oral kickstart of var be good or not needed?
TIA for replies. looking for a nice conservative stack that can be repeated several times with minimal sides (and minimal PCT if possible) for lean gains.
GrownUp
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Hey, granted I didn't read the first 9 pages of this thread but 3 weeks sounds like a really short Primo cycle, I didn't see anything until around the 6th week or so and even at that it wasn't until the 10th week when I really noticed its super hardening effects, I wouldn't waste Primo like that, only if I have enough for at least a 12-16 weeks cycle or I'm certain I can get it when I need it, would I start a Primo cycle and yes, I throw Proviron in everything, including my soup at least 100mg ED it covers all the angles for me, just my opinion, obviously...
The short cycle approach is meant to be an adjunct to natural training. PCT wouldn't be necessary and suppression would be minimal. I do believe I was being a bit too conservative -- not that it wouldn't work, but I realize most people want more out of their cycles. But I come from the days where cycles ran no longer than 6 weeks. Maybe that's why so many guys avoided problems down the road. These days with the supps available, I'm starting to think that mild , short cycles along with good PCT and the proper supps, you can make outstanding , safe gains.
soupeater
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Thanks for the replies.
Nelson can you give us an example of what a 'mild short cycle along with good PCT' would be for outstanding safe gains?
Personally looking for keepable, lean mass gains ala 'Steroids for Health' type way of usage.
It seems like available products, in my case, are Sustenon 250, Primobolan Depot, Anavar, Proviron, HCG, Clomid, Nolva, Deca, DBol, and Winnie amongst others. I really like your ideas on 'safe' usage and value your input.
Have a good one guys!
Nelson can you give us an example of what a 'mild short cycle along with good PCT' would be for outstanding safe gains?
Personally looking for keepable, lean mass gains ala 'Steroids for Health' type way of usage.
It seems like available products, in my case, are Sustenon 250, Primobolan Depot, Anavar, Proviron, HCG, Clomid, Nolva, Deca, DBol, and Winnie amongst others. I really like your ideas on 'safe' usage and value your input.
Have a good one guys!
Primobolan can not be successfully incorporated in to a short cycle, due to the Enanthate ester. Anything less than 8-10 weeks is a waste of the steroid.
I would suggest:
Weeks 1-6: Dinabol or Anavar, 30mg ED
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mg
Weeks 1-10: Primobolan, 400mg
why is that. any sterod with an e ester can be used effectively in a short cycle. ive ran 4 weeks of test e and got the same 4 weeks worth of results as i did with 4 weeks of prop. only difference was the time i saw the results.
soupeater
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Thanks for the input Ross. That looks like a great cycle. Would you classify it as a bulking cycle or a lean mass cycle? Would the oral kickstart just get things going and the low dose of Sustanon just balance out the Primo for the rest of the lean mass cycle? In your opinion anything less than 8 weeks would not work with Primo right?
Any more on the usefullness or waste of an e ester in a short cycle? Particularly Primo D?
Maybe I should start a new thread on short cycles.... But any more ideas or links to good threads on which gear to be used for conservative short cycles?
Nelson, any more input on short Primo cycles...
Thanks to all
Any more on the usefullness or waste of an e ester in a short cycle? Particularly Primo D?
Maybe I should start a new thread on short cycles.... But any more ideas or links to good threads on which gear to be used for conservative short cycles?
Nelson, any more input on short Primo cycles...
Thanks to all
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