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One rep max calculations?

d80p

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I was looking over some test for hypogonadal/HIV+ research papers, when I noticed their section on testing methods for calculating one rep max which will be used as a standard for measuring strength increase, etc....

It went something like below:

"Measurement of muscle strength.
5 min rest period, subjects began by performing one set of 5-10 reps of selected exercise using 40-60 percent of estimated max. The resistance was progressively increased until subjects could not complete lift; last successful was recorded as max."

Another study said that “resistance [was] progressively increased until the men could not complete the lift.”

Which is pretty much the same method as the first study, but worded differently.

So...I'm curious. Wouldn't fatigue and any learning effect skew the above? Isn't there a better way to measure one rep max? For example Matt Brzycki's formula?

Predicted one rep = weight lifted/ 1.0278 - .0278X

X being the number of reps (1-10) to fatigues.

With the accuracy decreasing as the number of reps go beyond 10

Or has the research paper's mediocre method become a necessity as some semblance of a standard is being created in the science community (less variables when comparing diff papers etc)

I will point out that both studies were developed by similar teams as I have a personal interest in one of the professors. So I will admit that I do not know if other researchers use different methods to calculate one rep maxs or if Brzycki's formula is another example of theory not coinciding with reality.

Can any strength trainers/expert bbs confirm if either method is accurate? Heck, they might end up giving the same answer.
 
I've heard from several people who should know better that your 20 rep max is 60% of your 1 rep max. High school football coaches are notorious for using the chart to claim numbers for their kids that would staple them to the floor.

Never underestimate the confounding effect of individual physiogomy. A slow twitch preponderant individual like myself can do 20 reps with 85% or more of 1 rep max (depending on the exercise).

Anyway. The only way to measure your 1 rep max? You can either lift it or you can't. With all respect to Matt Brzycki and what he's trying to do.
 
2 reps = 1.07
3 reps = 1.12
4 reps = 1.15
5 reps = 1.18


etc/.
 
Cornholio said:
2 reps = 1.07
3 reps = 1.12
4 reps = 1.15
5 reps = 1.18


etc/.

etc...? Please go on...

B True
 
for each rep you add - you add another .03 to the co-efficient - seems fairly accurate to about 10-12 reps and then fiber types have a bifg impact on it...
 
I was hoping to see what I would approximately have do deadlift for a 1RM to get 12-15 reps on the 500 pound deadlift...

B True
 
665 1RM to get 500 for 10...ouch. Well...I'll be wearing a belt and maybe straps...

B True
 
Like I said - those are really indiviudal things, strength cooeff. - but it is a good thunbnail to go by
 
Well I can say the 5 rep max is almost dead on for me.

I do 225 for either 5-6 (depends on bulkcut glucose fuel)

my max is 265 according to that at 5 reps which is actually is but only if I train for it a few weeks prior I gotta get used to upping 250 ect.. first.
 
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