Obliques

[ZGzaZ]

if you lift for health and strength, i would do them...but casual is right, and if you lift as a BB then you might want to go light, or even not do them...besides, they are hit indirectly when doing a lot of other work.

 

[revexrevex]

Obliques and abs play an enormous part in the execution of two best exercises, the deadlift and the squat.

If you don't train your abdominal region, how will you expect your core lifts to go up, and thus your body to gain mass and grow?

 

[casualbb]

casual - at 150 lbs I would not worry about my v-taper

When was this thread about me?

 

[Zoalord]

casual - at 150 lbs I would not worry about my v-taper.

Everyone is at a different stage in the game. I, for example, can lift much more than you, according to what I have seen you post. However, when you feel the need to draw external support from others in order to stoke your fires of motivation, I and others who are more able than you don't blast you for it. Respect the fact that each lifter can only progress so fast, and what you want may not be what others want.

Obliques and abs play an enormous part in the execution of two best exercises, the deadlift and the squat.

If you don't train your abdominal region, how will you expect your core lifts to go up, and thus your body to gain mass and grow?

Yes, they are exceedingly important, just like the rest of the involved muscles during those lifts. However, for some, they find that additional ab work is not necessary, myself included. I topped out at a low Box Squat load of 595 a week ago for a relatively "easy" triple. I never train my abs. I never use a belt, either. I progress well.

Just because something is or is not for you doesn't mean everyone else has to follow your model. To each his own.

 

[IronLion]

casual - at 150 lbs I would not worry about my v-taper.

wtf is wrong with this, he makes a valid point.

Zoalord you look like an ass flaming him for it

 

[Zoalord]

Sure he does. Sure I do.

And disagreement has now become equal to flaming, as well.

 

[IronLion]

well telling someone that they wrong b/c you lift more than they do and belive differently is not exactly beneficial, call it what you want.

I belive in ab stability work and oblique work and I too don't think that someone that weighs 150 has a reason to worry about their obliques ruining their v-taper. I think their lack of upper body is what is hurting their v taper

 

[SofaGeorge]

Zoalord... which banned ex-member are you?

 

[Zoalord]

Baoh/Alucard.

 

[casualbb]

I was about to type out some very angry stuff but I cooled down and deleted it.

Thank you Zoaland/Baoh/Alucard.

To address the original topic, if you want oblique strength without a lot of size, do heavy doubles or triples of DB side bends. Fast tempo, like 1/1/1.