Novice test question

[stormshadow101]

Hi all,
I'm new to this site so please go easy. I've spent a lot of time reading up on all this stuff and 'think' i may have a handle on it. I do have one question though: It appears that the suggested test cycle is for 250 -500 /week. My question is, what happens if you do less, say 50 for example? Would the results just be less obvious, or is there a kind of threshold 'all or nothing' level which one must be above to see results?
Thanks very much for your time.

 

[buddhabuilder]

When you introduce an external source of Test into your system, you shut down your own production. If this external source is a low dosage you may end up shutting down your natural production, but end up with a lower Test level than you had naturally. I'm not sure of the number you need to boost yourself over the natural level, but I usually see 400mg recommended for a first cycle.

 

[stormshadow101]

I see, I suppose that makes sense, but then why doesn't that happen to people that receive test injections when they have low test (I mean from a proper DR)? I think they only get 50-200 every 2 weeks...according to the prescription info i could find...

Thanks

 

[EZ_E]

I see, I suppose that makes sense, but then why doesn't that happen to people that receive test injections when they have low test (I mean from a proper DR)? I think they only get 50-200 every 2 weeks...according to the prescription info i could find...

Thanks

Because in that case test isn't cycled, it's a never ending thing...

~EZ

 

[stormshadow101]

Sorry EZ, I still don't get it. Surely continual injections would be as suppressive as just doing it for 12 weeks? Obviously the dose is higher for a cycle...i understand that; however, doesn't really answer my original question.

 

[hirphromu21]

Sorry EZ, I still don't get it. Surely continual injections would be as suppressive as just doing it for 12 weeks? Obviously the dose is higher for a cycle...i understand that; however, doesn't really answer my original question.

Because it doesn't matter to the person receiving the test from a doc because they will continue to receive it for good. Not just a 8-16 week cycle. Yes it will suppress their already low test production but they will not stop receiving injections. To them the "replacement " test is just as good as there own.

You on the other hand, I am assuming want to cycle it like most. For your purposes it will suppress even at low doses and when you come off it will continue for a while.

example using completely fake numbers just to make it simple.

lets say your body currently produces 100 and you shoot 50. Even though it is a small amount your body will most likely stop producing it because it is getting it from somewhere else. So now you are actually getting less by injection than you were producing on your own. It's not necessarily the amount that you use it's just the fact that your body see's that it no longer needs to continue to make it.

 

[stormshadow101]

I get it. So my body is lazy and gets it for free so 'shuts up shop'. Thanks for the input.

I guess where i'm going with this is towards the idea that I don't want to take a high dose of test because I don't want to make huge gains. I just want to put on 5-10 ibs that im struggling with and lose a few % BF. My stats: 34 yo, 6'0, 185, 12% BF. I was thinking 250 of test for 8 weeks.

Again guys, thanks for all your help. Much obliged.

 

[joeblow12345]

I get it. So my body is lazy and gets it for free so 'shuts up shop'. Thanks for the input.

I guess where i'm going with this is towards the idea that I don't want to take a high dose of test because I don't want to make huge gains. I just want to put on 5-10 ibs that im struggling with and lose a few % BF. My stats: 34 yo, 6'0, 185, 12% BF. I was thinking 250 of test for 8 weeks.

Again guys, thanks for all your help. Much obliged.

Long esters need to be ran about 12 weeks to get the full affects. And so you know 250 mg is the lowest you'd ever want to bother cycling. 50 mg is less then your body makes on average a week. So you'd be shutting yourself down for nothing in return. And gaining10 lbs, and keeping it on 250 mg week is a great cycle. I'm not sure what your expecting from test alone, but your not gonna turn into mr Olympia from it. And no offense, but from your stats your genetics suck anyway, so the likelihood of you gaining a substantial amount of mass on any compound or dose is slim to none.

 

[stormshadow101]

Genetics sucks? How do you figure that? I should correct, my BF is 8%. I'm not sure I know many other 34 y/o in the shape i'm in.

 

[stevesmi]

I get it. So my body is lazy and gets it for free so 'shuts up shop'. Thanks for the input.
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your body recognizes hormones in the body so does not feel it necessary to produce its own.

when you come off it takes time for the body to wake back up and start producing test again, some guys end up on HRT because their bodies fail to start producing test again.. it happens when guys abuse AAS.