Newbies using 1000mg of testosterone a week?

[big dog]

There is no reason for anyone who has not used steroids to use anymore than 500-600mg of Test. If you cant grow off of that with proper training and diet, go buy a tennis racket, because you need a new hobby...

 

[Ercole]

Attend the wise words of the Big Dog. He knoweth whereof he speaketh.

 

[panerai]

Re: WHY????

The whole point of using AS is to get as much bang as possible out of the least amount of gear, so as to limit side effects, receptor downgrading, disruption of your natural test production, and toxic damage to your innards.

Ercole, first of all, I want to apologize. My remark was unfair and unpolite, and I really don't want this or any other thread to become some kind of personal war, we all are on the same side.

As for the facts, I would like to discuss side effects that you mentioned above. Let's look at them one by one:

1.receptor downregulation. I look up and found excellent article by Bill Roberts. Here is the link, please, read:
http://www.anabolic-androgenic-steroids.com/articles/pharmacology/androgen-receptor-regulation.htm

2.disruption of your natural test production. I found two studies, wich show that 250mg of Test will supress user completely within two weeks, and it's not going to be any difference in suppression comparing to 1g.
Here:
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/281/1/93#F2
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9394096&dopt=Abstract

3. toxic damage to innards. Good links:
http://www.medibolics.com
Q&A : Steroids and the Liver by Walter Jekot, MD
Commentary: Steroids and the Liver
The Chemistry: Steroids and the Liver by Patrick Arnold

As for use of Saw Palmetto for prevention of prostate problems, there are plenty of studies comparing effeciency of Saw Palmetto to Finasteride and proving that they are equal in results, with much less side effects with Saw Palmetto and actually, it has such a multiple way of action that we don't even know all the benefits of using it yet. Also, there are plenty of users testimonials of positive effect of Saw Palmetto on their prostate and even hair.

 

[Andy13]

Just remember, you can only go up. So if they do 1000mg this time, then next time, they'll need 1250mg, and so on. Start low, really low. If you don't get the gains you want, you can always up the dosage next time. If you start out at 250mg and don't gain much, then you'll still be able to go up to 500mg next time and gain more. If you start with 1000mg, you'll get great gains, but you could fuck your system up, and then that 500mg really isn't going to do shit for you. Take it from someone who knows about over doing it. When I decided to up my protein intake, I went from 400g/day to 1000g/day. I spent the next day on the toilet. Then I came to my senses and went to 450g/day, then 475g/day, then 500g/day, and so on. Now I can take in 1000g a day and be okay and make good advances. It takes time to grow, but it's worth it.

BH

That is a common misconseption. If you did a gram test and then in following cycles would not grow off of anything unless it was over a gram of test, then when he comes off he will shrink smaller then he was before he even started juicing.

If a guy did a gram of test/week,,, IMO he could stay at that dose for a VERY long time and continue to make gains... Only until he starts to look like a pro bodybuilder will he ever need more.

Andy

 

[BOT]

1 GRAM OF TEST/WEEK WILL MAKE YOU VERY UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[maxellyz]

What the hell kind of a question is this, of course no.

exactly!!!!!

 

[KappaRaider]

As with any new drug you put into your body start low to see how your body reacts. Then next cycle pump it up to a 1000

 

[slin shady]

Just because you don't have 3000 posts like some people on the board, doesn't necessarily make you a newbie to juice. I'll assume you meant newbie to juice, and reply that its an individuals choice, but probably not necessary for the first or second cycle

 

[Quadsweep]

500 is enough

1000 is too much for a newbie.

 

[Arkan]

BumP