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Newbies using 1000mg of testosterone a week?
- Thread starter Sittin' On Diesel
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I really don't understand the bullshit about newbie not knowing how he will react to test. Whoever say it, I'm sure, never even did 1g of test. You can give newbie 2g of test and nothing bad is going to happen. Of course, sides will be big, but they are very easy to control on 1g of test. Liquidex for aromatisation, Saw Palmetto for prostate, B5 or Acutane, if B5 doesn't work(it should, it's a matter of dosage) for acne, well, for hair, who said that someone who prone to hairloss will find out about it, by using steroids? That's absurd! Ask guys who are prone to hairloss, and then talk!
Gram of test is great.
Of course, some guys will grow on 250mg/week of Test(BTW, 2Thick, have you ever tried Test 1g/week, or in a matter of fact, any dosage of Test?) but it means that they are uniquly geneticaly gifted, or far away from they genetical natural limit and never even train hard before(those are lazy, not the guys on 1g of test, because one can't possibly be lazy in gym, if he uses gram of test, it's like being super nice on 40mg of Halo,lol)
But, vast majority of average users will greatly benefit from gram of test, and still will grow on 500mg/week of test in next cycles, especially if it's stacked with other compounds, like Tren, Dbol, Deca(be careful, it's evil!
), Winstol, etc...also, one will learn to eat more and not to overtrain,etc..
Gram of test is great.
Of course, some guys will grow on 250mg/week of Test(BTW, 2Thick, have you ever tried Test 1g/week, or in a matter of fact, any dosage of Test?) but it means that they are uniquly geneticaly gifted, or far away from they genetical natural limit and never even train hard before(those are lazy, not the guys on 1g of test, because one can't possibly be lazy in gym, if he uses gram of test, it's like being super nice on 40mg of Halo,lol)
But, vast majority of average users will greatly benefit from gram of test, and still will grow on 500mg/week of test in next cycles, especially if it's stacked with other compounds, like Tren, Dbol, Deca(be careful, it's evil!
), Winstol, etc...also, one will learn to eat more and not to overtrain,etc..badazzwhitedude
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Just remember that once you use 1000mg of test in a cycle, there is no going back to 250mg or 500mg per week. Just be careful because you are going into dosages that come with serious sides one day.
I have to disagree. If afterwards, your natural test levels return to normal, it is no more than 50mg a week. You said so yourself. Then you may decide to do another cycle. If you do anything more than your natural levels, even just 200mg a week, it will result in gains, because it is more than your natural levels.
Don't get me wrong. I do not recommend doing such high dosages, and I do very modest dosages of steroids myself, but the facts are the facts man.
I have to disagree. If afterwards, your natural test levels return to normal, it is no more than 50mg a week. You said so yourself. Then you may decide to do another cycle. If you do anything more than your natural levels, even just 200mg a week, it will result in gains, because it is more than your natural levels.
Don't get me wrong. I do not recommend doing such high dosages, and I do very modest dosages of steroids myself, but the facts are the facts man.
Liquidex Guru
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Well, as long as you use liquidex. LOL
joeljuice
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panerai said:I really don't understand the bullshit about newbie not knowing how he will react to test. Whoever say it, I'm sure, never even did 1g of test. You can give newbie 2g of test and nothing bad is going to happen. Of course, sides will be big, but they are very easy to control on 1g of test. Liquidex for aromatisation, Saw Palmetto for prostate, B5 or Acutane, if B5 doesn't work(it should, it's a matter of dosage) for acne, well, for hair, who said that someone who prone to hairloss will find out about it, by using steroids? That's absurd! Ask guys who are prone to hairloss, and then talk!
Gram of test is great.
Of course, some guys will grow on 250mg/week of Test(BTW, 2Thick, have you ever tried Test 1g/week, or in a matter of fact, any dosage of Test?) but it means that they are uniquly geneticaly gifted, or far away from they genetical natural limit and never even train hard before(those are lazy, not the guys on 1g of test, because one can't possibly be lazy in gym, if he uses gram of test, it's like being super nice on 40mg of Halo,lol)
But, vast majority of average users will greatly benefit from gram of test, and still will grow on 500mg/week of test in next cycles, especially if it's stacked with other compounds, like Tren, Dbol, Deca(be careful, it's evil!
I think this one is for me
Yeah yeah bla bla sides can be control. But still i dont suggest anybody to do gram test for first cycle. I think that suggesting newbie to use gram test would be same to suggesting some one new to alchol drink bottle of 60% Vodka. Imo 250mg is too low for any cycle, 500mg is good and 1000mg is unneccesary for first cycle.
Knowing if you are prone to hairloss, by sterods absurd? How the hell else i would know it? You tell me and i will take gram test week anytime!
I'm 22 with tight hair, but my mother and her brother's have thinned hair, but my father has good hair. How will i know that did i have those genes from my mother or father? Dont tell me that look your mom's father, because it is bullshit! In fact you can get mbp from great, great, great grand father and from the both sides.
So in few weeks i will see if or not i'm prone to hairloss, because i start cypionate/deca/prop cycle on monday. If the hairloss starts i know then that i'm prone to it. What absurd is on that?
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AnabolicAgent
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WTF!!!!!!!
I back 2Thick on this.
A newbie simply does not need that much test! He will grow extremly well on 500mg. He will even feel like superman with that dosage if he eats and trains right. A newbie is not going to know what to do on that much test. Yea, granted he will grow but at 1gram a week, if he is a real man, he wont be able to control himself simply because he is not used to the feeling it will give. My first cycle my fucking voice changed and I my temperment was different on only a vial of sten a week! thats only 125mg of test. Just my experience but shit, on a gram a week I personally wouldnt have been able to handle it.
posted by Sittin on Diesel
Hypothetical question here fellas. What is your opinion on someone using 1000mg (or more) of testosterone a week for their first time. By the first time, I mean their first time with testosterone, not anabolics in general.
Andy13, I did not interpret that to mean the person was a well informed member of elite and that they new the risk of using 1 gram a week.
posted by Andy13:
I thought we were assuming that the newbie was a well-informed member of Elite and that he/(she, he he) knows the risks of 1000mg of test/week and that the appropriate precautions were taken..
Nowhere in this thread did I read that except in your post.
Until a newbie knows how to use steroids and how they effect his body he should not use a gram of test on his first cycle.
The Agent
I back 2Thick on this.
A newbie simply does not need that much test! He will grow extremly well on 500mg. He will even feel like superman with that dosage if he eats and trains right. A newbie is not going to know what to do on that much test. Yea, granted he will grow but at 1gram a week, if he is a real man, he wont be able to control himself simply because he is not used to the feeling it will give. My first cycle my fucking voice changed and I my temperment was different on only a vial of sten a week! thats only 125mg of test. Just my experience but shit, on a gram a week I personally wouldnt have been able to handle it.
posted by Sittin on Diesel
Hypothetical question here fellas. What is your opinion on someone using 1000mg (or more) of testosterone a week for their first time. By the first time, I mean their first time with testosterone, not anabolics in general.
Andy13, I did not interpret that to mean the person was a well informed member of elite and that they new the risk of using 1 gram a week.
posted by Andy13:
I thought we were assuming that the newbie was a well-informed member of Elite and that he/(she, he he) knows the risks of 1000mg of test/week and that the appropriate precautions were taken..
Nowhere in this thread did I read that except in your post.
Until a newbie knows how to use steroids and how they effect his body he should not use a gram of test on his first cycle.
The Agent
Ercole
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WHY????
I did my first sust cycle (I've done deca and a little other stuff in the past) and made AMAZING gains on only 250 mg./week. Tons of guys at the gym wanted to know what I was doing -- just 250 mg/week. My point is, start small, find out how YOUR individual system responds to a particular substance, then add more if necessary.
The whole point of using AS is to get as much bang as possible out of the least amount of gear, so as to limit side effects, receptor downgrading, disruption of your natural test production, and toxic damage to your innards.
Starting with such a high amount is totally wasting the significant gains this guy could probably make on lower amounts. This seems really short-sighted to me and "macho" in the most juvenile sense of the word.
Is he trying to make real gains or trying to impress his friends with the amount of side effects and toxicity he can handle?
Use as little as possible. If it doesn't work, inch up the dose.
I did my first sust cycle (I've done deca and a little other stuff in the past) and made AMAZING gains on only 250 mg./week. Tons of guys at the gym wanted to know what I was doing -- just 250 mg/week. My point is, start small, find out how YOUR individual system responds to a particular substance, then add more if necessary.
The whole point of using AS is to get as much bang as possible out of the least amount of gear, so as to limit side effects, receptor downgrading, disruption of your natural test production, and toxic damage to your innards.
Starting with such a high amount is totally wasting the significant gains this guy could probably make on lower amounts. This seems really short-sighted to me and "macho" in the most juvenile sense of the word.
Is he trying to make real gains or trying to impress his friends with the amount of side effects and toxicity he can handle?
Use as little as possible. If it doesn't work, inch up the dose.
JoelJuice, I'm prone to hairloss, and know what I'm talking about. It's not such a simple matter, and very individual thing, but if you have nice hair now, and you think that using gram of test for 8-12 weeks will make any significant difference, you are very, very wrong.
It takes years to loose hair, even on steroids, unless you are exceptionally prone to it, but then, you would know for sure by now.
Looking at your parent and grandparents will not help, I agree with you.
Ercole, you really must do some more research on side effects from steroids, before you post. Most of your statements are outdated, even by this board standarts.
It takes years to loose hair, even on steroids, unless you are exceptionally prone to it, but then, you would know for sure by now.
Looking at your parent and grandparents will not help, I agree with you.
Ercole, you really must do some more research on side effects from steroids, before you post. Most of your statements are outdated, even by this board standarts.
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