Newbies using 1000mg of testosterone a week?

[genarr3]

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[NYStrip]

I like 2Thick's habit of preferring the side of caution and hard work. Why not have some reasonable expectations, then if a lower dosage helps you to reach these expectations, is this not more desirable?

 

[Andy13]

I think this one is for me Yeah yeah bla bla sides can be control. But still i dont suggest anybody to do gram test for first cycle. I think that suggesting newbie to use gram test would be same to suggesting some one new to alchol drink bottle of 60% Vodka.

Fuck that.. What a bullshit comparison... Those two aren't even apples and oranges.. Their apples and basketballs...

I thought we had a simple question going on here? Should newbies do a gram of test/week? The answer is NO! Nobody should do anything.

Now, on 1g of test- will sides be worse? Of course they will! Come on! I never said they won't be.

Will they grow on 250mg/week? Yes they will. I never said they won't.

What I'm saying is that it is not "wrong" for a newbie to do a gram of test/week... He will grow more and have more sides than 250mg.. But that just kind of makes sence, doesn't it?

Lets be real, guys.. ANd can we make it simple.. Some guys have the tendency to throw all this rediculous bullshit into a simple comparison.. Like.. "What if the dude starts the cycle and then loses his armidex pills... see, he souldn't start that high.."

Come on.. Can we just leave bullshit like this out for simplicity's sake? Lets just assume all preventatives are taken.

There's nothing "wrong" with a newbie doing a gram of test..

Andy

 

[Sittin' On Diesel]

CLARIFICATION!

LET ME CLARIFY: This post is not about a newbie to anabolics in general. This is about a newbie to testosterone. This person would have experience with other anabolics, ie: deca, dbol, winstrol, tren, etc.

2Thick- I respect you man. Can you honestly say that 500mg of testosterone given to someone who is 145lbs and to someone who weighs 300lbs, that the results will be the same?

That seems a little crazy. Bodyweight is a primary factor in determining the effects- just look at alcohol (if both have never drunk anything before).

 

[brianharper94]

Just remember, you can only go up. So if they do 1000mg this time, then next time, they'll need 1250mg, and so on. Start low, really low. If you don't get the gains you want, you can always up the dosage next time. If you start out at 250mg and don't gain much, then you'll still be able to go up to 500mg next time and gain more. If you start with 1000mg, you'll get great gains, but you could fuck your system up, and then that 500mg really isn't going to do shit for you. Take it from someone who knows about over doing it. When I decided to up my protein intake, I went from 400g/day to 1000g/day. I spent the next day on the toilet. Then I came to my senses and went to 450g/day, then 475g/day, then 500g/day, and so on. Now I can take in 1000g a day and be okay and make good advances. It takes time to grow, but it's worth it.

BH

 

[joeljuice]

Fuck that.. What a bullshit comparison... Those two aren't even apples and oranges.. Their apples and basketballs...

I thought we had a simple question going on here? Should newbies do a gram of test/week? The answer is NO! Nobody should do anything.

Now, on 1g of test- will sides be worse? Of course they will! Come on! I never said they won't be.

Will they grow on 250mg/week? Yes they will. I never said they won't.

What I'm saying is that it is not "wrong" for a newbie to do a gram of test/week... He will grow more and have more sides than 250mg.. But that just kind of makes sence, doesn't it?

Lets be real, guys.. ANd can we make it simple.. Some guys have the tendency to throw all this rediculous bullshit into a simple comparison.. Like.. "What if the dude starts the cycle and then loses his armidex pills... see, he souldn't start that high.."

Come on.. Can we just leave bullshit like this out for simplicity's sake? Lets just assume all preventatives are taken.

There's nothing "wrong" with a newbie doing a gram of test..

Andy

Ok. I didnt mean that you will have less sides from gram test if you use like in third cycle 9 instead of first. I just wanted to use that alchol think to make my point clear, it is principal thing

I agree that more gear, better results and more sides. Does newbie need that much do like you said.

Exacty! Newbie can use gram test! But he wont need it. I would save the money and increase the dosage on next cycles

Peace

 

[joeljuice]

JoelJuice, I'm prone to hairloss, and know what I'm talking about. It's not such a simple matter, and very individual thing, but if you have nice hair now, and you think that using gram of test for 8-12 weeks will make any significant difference, you are very, very wrong.
It takes years to loose hair, even on steroids, unless you are exceptionally prone to it, but then, you would know for sure by now.
Looking at your parent and grandparents will not help, I agree with you.
Ercole, you really must do some more research on side effects from steroids, before you post. Most of your statements are outdated, even by this board standarts.

I have top admit that i'm too paranoid with this hairloss thing. When i was little kid and saw bald man, i decided i wont never be like that

Well i'm starting monady my cycle and first 3 weeks i have pretty much test 500mg cypionate and 50mg prop eod. On third i will use Omna or Sust 750mg week and i will frontload it anything between 1000-1500mg. I'm on of those guys whp wants to go step by step.

Btw look on anabolicfitness thís same guestion is there, but answers are way more better than here

I dont see why my statements are old?

Peace

 

[panerai]

Joel, not your statements, Ercole's. It was directed at him.
I think, Andy made an excellent point, nobody should use 1g of test, but there's nothing wrong with newbie doing so, as long as he takes proper precautions.

 

[joeljuice]

Joel, not your statements, Ercole's. It was directed at him.
I think, Andy made an excellent point, nobody should use 1g of test, but there's nothing wrong with newbie doing so, as long as he takes proper precautions.

Ok, sorry i was reading wrong. Yep Andy made good point.

Aah shit! Sometimes my writing looks awfull, because i'm writing too fast

 

[Ercole]

Okay, Panerai, back your BS

Panerai wrote: "Ercole, you really must do some more research on side effects from steroids, before you post. Most of your statements are outdated, even by this board standarts."

Rereading my post I can't see one statement that's "outdated" or shows ignorance of side effects. I didn't even mention specific side effects. What is your problem? I posted pretty much what everyone else posted: why use more before you've found out what less will do for you, since once you've upped your dose, it's hard or impossible to get good results from less.

Name ONE statement I made that's "outdated", or quit bagging on people who simply hold a different opinion from yours. The extent of your own knowledge is made clear by your recommendation to use Saw Palmetto with Test. (Maybe you da man that should be doing some research ...)

IOt's possible to disagree without being nasty, muscle man. Word.