Need Help For Buddys son 16 year old football player

[scout69]

Ok this is a supplement workout question but please dont move all you guys in this forum give the best advice. My buddys son is 16 he is just starting to workout for fottball and I want to help him out. What are the best ways for him to take supplement as Protein Glutamine and creatine IE how much and when to take and also what kind of workout do you reccomend Thanks guys you ROCK

 

[scout69]

bump karma for eveyone who helps. amount of protein a 16 year olad should take for weight gain and when and how much he should take of creatine and glutamine

 

[Heath1282]

5x5 is a great workout. protien and creatine before and after workouts and glutamine after. 25g pro before and 5g crea. 50g pro, 5g crea, 5-10g glut after... LOTSA FOOD and SLEEP!!! do that and he will blow up

 

[bigcountry61]

football workouts are much different from bodybuilding...he has to create a workout that is position specific. lots of explosion excercies, power cleans hang cleans squats one legged squats, etc... I mess with resistance bands, chains all sorts of shit.

what position is he bro? that would help alot. I am an olineman so I eat like a mother fucker.

 

[sweed]

what position? I did core lifts and basic lifting with plyometrics. I was a WR/punter and this helped my speed a lot!

 

[needtogetarmy]

workout advice above is spot on.

For creatine 5g ED early in the morning is good.

For protein he needs to hit 1.5-2g per KG of body weight. Since he is young and growing I would recommend the upper limit of that. I would recommend he obtain the majority of his protein through solid foods like eggs, steak and chicken and also supplement with 2 or 3 x 50g shakes per day. He needs to take the shakes between meals. A pre and post work out shake is also in order. Throw in 40-60g of carbs in the post workout shake too.

This may seem like a little bit for a 16 year old but his metabolism should be like a rocket.

 

[rudy76]

My philosiphy on protein is "within reason" no more than 400g/day. 2g of protein per pound of body weight. I can keep muscle with only 100 grams per day but that is very low -- little gain, only form. I can not build with less than 200 grams / day. Age matters; greatly. Buy The Big Green Machines cookbook.!!


I may be back

 

[marshallmadman]

Every high school football player I train is on KreAlkalyn for their base Creatine. Protein, I leave up to them. I do recommend a lot of chocolate milk post workout. A ton of college level strength trainers have found that it tends to work as well as any powdered protein supplement. That said, I also recommend that they add a scoop of their favorite protein powder to their chocolate milk. Taste is pretty much the most important thing to these kids. Syntha-6 seems to be the most popular with my clients...I guess they like the taste.

 

[Greatercow]

what position does he play ? i used to play RB so if u have any question dont be shy

 

[jungle4321]

football workouts are much different from bodybuilding...he has to create a workout that is position specific. lots of explosion excercies, power cleans hang cleans squats one legged squats, etc... I mess with resistance bands, chains all sorts of shit.

what position is he bro? that would help alot. I am an olineman so I eat like a mother fucker.

+1

 

[tsuwr927]

Every high school football player I train is on KreAlkalyn for their base Creatine. Protein, I leave up to them. I do recommend a lot of chocolate milk post workout. A ton of college level strength trainers have found that it tends to work as well as any powdered protein supplement. That said, I also recommend that they add a scoop of their favorite protein powder to their chocolate milk. Taste is pretty much the most important thing to these kids. Syntha-6 seems to be the most popular with my clients...I guess they like the taste.

I've also heard that about the chocolate milk as well. Been doin it the last week or so after the gym. Haven't seen you around in forever bro. Thought you were gone for good.

 

[DBBT]

KreAlk
Liquid Beef Aminos
Have him start with 1g per lb. of bodyweight...unless he's already doing that much then go 1.5

workout wise go with general split chest/tris, legs/hams, off, back/bis, shoulders, off, repeat.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

KreAlk
Liquid Beef Aminos
Have him start with 1g per lb. of bodyweight...unless he's already doing that much then go 1.5

workout wise go with general split chest/tris, legs/hams, off, back/bis, shoulders, off, repeat.

Liquid Beef Aminos now thats shit rocks , and i like Glut and Arginine 5g of each before bed .
Brad.

 

[enigma4dub]

glutamine and creatine are a waste of scrill. proper diet and lots of compound movements are the answer. absolutely no machines, isolation or cable. and if gaining muscle mass is the goal then a caloric surplus with a good amount of protein is needed. at 16, i dont think more than 1.5 grams per pound is necessary. dont forget lots of veggies, carbs and water. he should grow like a weed.

 

[iggy]

three years ago i was at 170lbs and went on a 5x5 routine for 12 weeks during football. I ate everything. 8 eggs in the mourning, shakes all day, plenty of chicken breasts, tuna, london broil, salmon, veggies. (and even some unhealthy stuff like ice cream). I was taking in probably 5 or 6k cals a day, 1.5xweight of protein. I focused solely on power lifts, and lifted every monday wednesday and friday. bench went from 170x1 to 205x5, squat from 185x5 to 285x5, and power clean from 135x5 to 185x5, (also 225x1). i would bench and squat 3 days a week, and clean twice while deadlifting once. this helped me personally more than any of our coach workouts. I did have a slight problem that my back was pretty weak compared to my legs. but i got a younger friend on the 5x5 too and he grew like a rocket.

never in my life have i seen such great gains like this before....
and still to this day thats the best workout ive ever done

thats all i got bro

 

[SaiBoT]

Go Google and search for "Javorek" he is one of the best on train for sports who require power and speed, real unorthodox methods. You will be surprised!

 

[marshallmadman]

I'm still around. I just don't have time to burn like I used to.

I've also heard that about the chocolate milk as well. Been doin it the last week or so after the gym. Haven't seen you around in forever bro. Thought you were gone for good.

 

[highlander555]

Okay, I know your original question dealt with some supps in regards to improving a kids training for football, but I have a non-supp suggestion that I think will allow you to help him more than any supp available.

As a certified strength and conditioning coach, I'd reccomend picking up a copy of Mark Rippetoes' book "Starting Strength". It's a book that pretty much teaches someone how to teach the basic strength lifts (squats, deadlifts, cleans, benchpress, shoulder press). I guarentee that after you read this book, you'll know more about how to make a highschool kid stronger than half the highschool coaches in the country.

I'm not affiliated with this book in any way, but I do wish I'd read it myself 10 years ago. It would have saved me a lot of heartache and confusion, and I'd been able to coach myself and others a heck of a lot better earlier in my career.

I promise that this book will help out more than any amino acid or weight gainer (not to say those things aren't helpful).

 

[youcancallmedaddy]

DL, Squat and Bench

Lift, Eat and Sleep

That's really all there is to it. Make sure he's doing the lifts properly, eating enough and sleeping enough and the rest is just time.

 

[bobby716]

get a training bungy cord harness and a punching bag ... harness him up and let him run and tackle the punching bag .. do this about 3 times a week he will have kids coming off in strechers .. good for speed tackling and running through people