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Need help first cycle!!

choppadocta

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Around early november i started a pro hormone cycle "helladrol" i was also taking monohydrate creatine, animal pak,and a weight gainer pre workouts the whole 9.. did everything correctly got some real nice gains and after the pct i woke up one day and was so fuckin tired never been o tired before in my life it was way too abnormal so id say 2 weeks later i got blood work and my vitamin D was at 18 supposed to be 60 so i was prescribed vit d2 1.25 50,000 mg once per week about two weeks ago i stopped taking the vitamin d pills cause i started my first test enanthate cycle reading up on things vitamin d increases test so im no longer taking vitamin d just straight injections mon wed fri at 300mg i know its more than the typical beginner also taking fish oil and half a dose of monohydrate creatine.. i felt great was feeling good then i wake up today like a fucking zombie it took everything outta me to get out of bed and go to the gym, im fuckin tired and spacey ass hell had a intense workout but it was if i wasnt there idk give me some advice anything i hate the feeling!! Im 21 gained almost 10 pounds in the last 2 weeks so went from 164 to 174.. 5,11 ima say about 8-10% bf and my diet is high in protien fiber oats greek yogurt whole wheat bread fruits nuts gallon of water a day.. idk
 
So you're saying that Vit D increases test so bc you started taking test you stopped taking what the doc prescribed to you and was working? Haha test doesn't increase Vit D now does it? Why in the world would you stop taking it? Drink some damn whole milk bro, but regardless I agree with Rick, too young for test my friend.
 
Is that 900mg Test/wk? 21y.o, 174lb? You're gonna crash and burn hard. Your track record leading up to this is less than exemplary. Disregard your doc's diagnosis/treatment based on bloodwork and bang the Test. Brilliant.
 
I'd recommend a LOT more reading on here before you continue....then take the advice guys here give.

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Is that 900mg Test/wk? 21y.o, 174lb? You're gonna crash and burn hard. Your track record leading up to this is less than exemplary. Disregard your doc's diagnosis/treatment based on bloodwork and bang the Test. Brilliant.
So should i get off asap? Fuckim A is 21 really that young? Lol im almost 22 its not like im jumping right into it(maybe i am) but i been working out forever im familar with a wide range of supplements and pro hormone, im gonna do steroids either way.. im just looking for some guidence here and direction.. dont meed to be told im an idiot i already know this.. i really just woke up abnormally tired clogged ears almlst like a sinus infection.. im not the type to freak out im also a recovering drug addict so i keep SIDE effects on the side.. the pct is Clomid i have it here in my hand ready my boy put me onto what his boy put him onto lol this was last year fuckin guy is jacked now huge and mind you he weighed less than 174 he was 23 not 21 also idk if that plays a roll but idk guys juat looking for advice i dont think im going to stop just looking for information like i have been prior to the cycle
 
And yeah 900 a week.. rather than typical 500 a week wich looks like what everyone is doing.. listen im pretty set on not stopping but let me know if i should lower the dose or anything to help ima do it anyway... My guy is telling me not to worry he got me ill be fine and its not some fuckin gym lockker room troll that sold it to me hes a close friend hes been doing it for awhile like i said.. just wanted to know if i should be taking the 50,000mg per week of vit d while on the cycle
 
You are pretty young to be cycling, and you didn't recover correctly it sounds like. What was your PCT?

The pct for the pro hormone btw was pct x3 or someshit i ordered off amazon took with tribulus also.. the ph was from mr supps "helladrol" i got some real good gains off it except that whole vitamin D thing fucked me over and i waited a few weeks and took the pills as recommended up until my test e cycle.. theres 4 more vit d pills so that gives it a month left as they are to be taken once a week.. idk man has anyone had bad vit d deffiency after a cycle?
 
Alright, Choppa, I can't rightfully bust your ass then bail out on ya when you address me specifically. Where to begin? I'm just gonna let fly in no particular order as I'm on a phone...

Yes, 21 is pretty damn young to be messing with this stuff. Sure, guys your age have done it and done it successfully. Mainly due to:
1. Luck
2. Good mentoring
3. The utmost respect for the hormones, what they're capable of both -/+, motivation in research/knowledge/understanding that rivals their intensity in the gym.

The most reliable person you have in all this, when the needle hits the skin, is YOU. It's you based on hours of reading, well thought out questions that are, hopefully, verified by solid vets. Honestly, in this day and age with what's available, you could lay out a decent first cycle, where to get pins/ancillaries and good PCT w/o asking a direct question. Anything you could be asking at this point has been answered thoroughly and correctly. You could be fairly fluent with just about everything you need to know about running a Test cycle in a few weeks of STUDYING 2-3 hours a night.

Yes, 900mg of Test is a hefty, hefty dose at age 21, 174lb. That's 99% chance of excessive estrogen on that dose. Four hundred would be a much better starting point to get in the game. Do I think you should drop to 400 now? No, I think you need to get yourself off and straightened out. You've got some issues going on from the PH cycle and dropping 900mg, or any mg of test isn't the fix right now. You're gonna do them, you've said as much, so I'm not gonna play holier than though and tell you not. I would advocate going back to the starting line before you get too far down the wrong road.

I would look to the PCT thread and come up with a plan. You'd be looking at the gist of that beginning approx 2wks after your last 2 shot. Perhaps Dylan, RickRock or Steve could tailor something suited to your particular timeline concerning the PH and now test. As for your bro taking good care of you. Tell me has you hooked up w/something for estrogen control

I'm not trying to talk you off the gear. I don't advocate, at this point, but it can be done and done safely with KNOWLEDGE and the WISDOM of those experienced. Congratulations! Plenty to be found on this board. I've been on a ton of boards over many years and you've got some cats here that can flat deal.

From my experience your best bet is put the time in to understand a beginning test cycle, formulate that cycle, ancillaries and PCT, then present it to the board. Plenty of good bro's are happy to put the finishing touches on a proposed cycle

Before all that, get off, get PCT'd up and get back to a dr. That Vit D red flag should not have been ignored. Reel yourself in, get things tightened back up and you should have a fair amount of Test left over when you get things squared away.
 
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