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Natural or Juiced!

Natural Or Juiced ?

  • Roids ruless!!

    Votes: 146 39.8%
  • Its all Natural!!!

    Votes: 188 51.2%
  • dont know

    Votes: 33 9.0%

  • Total voters
    367
al420 said:
Monday: Heavy Pull

Power Clean: 8x3
Deads: 5x5
Face Pulls: 5x15-20
Bicep Curl: 4x12

Tuesday: Light Push

Flat Bench: 3x5, 3x3, 1x2 - I mix this up a bit
Snatch Grip BTN Press: 5x5
Front Squat: 5x5

Thur: Light Pull

DB SNatch: 5x5
Rack Pull: 5x5
Face Pulls: 100 reps w/ very little rest

Fri: Heavy Push

Push Press: 5x3
DB Incline: 3x12
Back Squat: 5x5, 1x3

What are face pulls? I think they are high seated rows? The link you provided is dead. This seems like a bit of a light routine. Are you still doing this? I do a push-pull routine also but it like it because I get a full body pump and it works as cardio too..

Any suggestions?
 
why would you even go to this website if you are always natural. Most of the forums are completly worthless - even counter productive - if you are natural all the time.
 
jstarr37 said:
why would you even go to this website if you are always natural. Most of the forums are completly worthless - even counter productive - if you are natural all the time.


this might be the most ignorant statement ive heard to date. the training information i have gain directly from this site. as well as learning, from here about others sources such as crossfit and elitefts has been invaluable. and im all natural all the time.
 
jstarr37 said:
why would you even go to this website if you are always natural. Most of the forums are completly worthless - even counter productive - if you are natural all the time.

sure.
 
Alot of people ask me why i don't shoot. I only like doing things right, and honestly from everything i've learned from this board doing cycles right is a huge expenditure of time. I can lift hard, get enough sleep, and even eat well without a huge amount of stress or cash. But to add steroids to the mix doesn't make things easier. It may make the muscle gaining easier, but it seems so stressful. A cycle starts, which is probably an amazing feeling, but when it gets near its close (provided there have been no complications) you have to dedicate a large amount of your time to making sure your natural hormones come back. If you fuck any of that up along the way, you could be worse off than before, or just feel plain miserable.

So, until i know without a doubt that i have been giving 110% everyday in the gym no excuses, am in the best health i will ever possibly be in, have a spot on diet, the cash, and the time to do enough research to feel comfortable not only putting steroids in my body but having a perfect PCT i will not do steroids, as tempting as it may be.

But without this board i would not know any of this, so i think this board is the perfect place for even the completely natural, no creatine, no nothing guy, because it allows them to become informed, and not get their advice from Bubba at the local gym who has never heard of PCT and once upon a time gained 40 lbs in 8 weeks and didn't lose any of it.
 
Bino said:
i'm afraid once i sauce i'll never get high from natty training again...while i've def hit a size plateau, i'm still getting slight strength increases and the thrill of lifting is still huge to me.
it's like going to a rave sober...fun as hell, but once you roll at a rave, you'll never enjoy a sober rave again

Perfect analogy!!
 
every one is search of massive size will come to a point in their hard work and dedication where they hit that wall that they cant get through (nature). you will only get so big naturaly. if this size or smaller is your goal then hands down natural is the only option, any thing else would be stupid. but when you are like meand have been busting your ass spending thousands of dollars on food and supliments for years making great gains and all the sudden it just stops, you cant grow for six straight months. you hit your natural limits and you are 100lbs shy of your dream you have to decide give up the dream? or continue the path you where on to go pro with the help of aas?
 
Monday: Heavy Pull

Power Clean: 8x3
Deads: 5x5
Face Pulls: 5x15-20
Bicep Curl: 4x12

Tuesday: Light Push

Flat Bench: 3x5, 3x3, 1x2 - I mix this up a bit
Snatch Grip BTN Press: 5x5
Front Squat: 5x5

Thur: Light Pull

DB SNatch: 5x5
Rack Pull: 5x5
Face Pulls: 100 reps w/ very little rest

Fri: Heavy Push

Push Press: 5x3
DB Incline: 3x12
Back Squat: 5x5, 1x3

I like the way that's set up. I think I may give it a try for a few months. Thanks for posting.
 
And if I remember correctly there was talk about injectable creatine a few years ago on this site. I'm guessing nothing ever came of it or it was a myth since I never heard anything else about it.
 
been natural since the start and don´t see any reason to change...

trying to become an LEO pretty much makes my decision easy, but even if i wasn't i don't see myself using the stuff...
 
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