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[Criminal10dinC]

just got back from the gym. tuesdays workout was as follows:


bent over rows 4x10 (95, 105, 125)
pull ups 4x12 (-100, -90, -80, -90)
Dead Lift (cant do deadlifts)
Db pull overs 3x12 (25, 30, 35)
Ez bar curls 3x12 (40, 50, 50)
Hammer Curls 3x12 (25, 30, 20)
crunches (20, 15, 10, 5)


definetly feel a little bit discouraged after tonights session at the gym. i feel like i got a great workout, in terms of pump and hypertrophy.. but god dayum i am weak. i guess thats what a year and a half of shooting heroin does...

my lower back started snappin up when doing the deadlifts, so i decided to stop after a few reps. i'm wondering what exercise i could put in its place to serve somewhat the same purpose? (i know nothing can truly replace deadlifts, dont freak out)

 

[Criminal10dinC]

I will elaborrate by saying even if you dont run HCG during cycle you need to run it in at the very least the last week before PCT starts. So your nuts are huge and full before you ask them to try and recover. Another thing if you can find it would be like 2 shots of HMG. But the HCG is a must. If you cant get it then about 10 caps of HCgenerate a day for in the week or two before pct then 5 daily all though pct. Hcgenerate will not suppress so running it through pct is a nice helping bonus. It will get costly though.

i dont want to sound stupid but can you explain the HCG to me a little bit more? as in the dosage and etc?? i can order it right now so that i will have it by the time i need it. sounds pretty important :/ oops again

also i could purchase some HMG as well, how big should the shots be and when would the ideal times be to take those shots?





i know it sounds like i am just utterly underprepared for this cycle that i am on, and by no means is this an excuse, BUT this forum takes PCT and all the precautions to a whole 'nother level. none of the other forums i am on are this into doing things the actual healthy way. so all the research that i had done the month prior to even ordering my gear was essentially useless because of the vast amounts of information left out in those forums....

that being said i appreciate everyone's help and general concern for my well being. all this time and energy you guys are putting into me and helping me get my shit right i will for sure be repaying to those that i see in need when i become well learned in this science. thanks again.

 

[Criminal10dinC]

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[JayDiesel]

all good points have been made here. that being said dude you're gonna blow up on test e! keep that diet clean eat well above maintenance lift big and ur gonna get dem epic gainz! I'm in for this

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[stevesmi]

this thread belongs in the AAS forum or the log forum. not here.

whatever gains you get on this cycle (whether it be strength or mass) will be gone afterwards. you don't have anything in order at all. your diet (which i commented on with your thread on dieting) will result in fat and water gain.. you are just consuming fat and sugars, not enough vegetables or whole food protein, your workouts are gonna be awful since you have no base and are starting from scratch (sore the entire way and no conditioning), your blood pressure and heart health will not allow you to feel good or sleep well on this. at your weight you should be benching 275 minimum naturally. you have no trunks, unable to do any deadlifts.
without a trunk a tree will not grow leaves.

PCT should already be on hand. some ancillaries have to be ordered from online pharmacies like hcg. that can take a month or more to arrive. you cannot just wait to get them. with no pct 5 weeks after your last injection of test you will crash hard, since you have a history of substance abuse you will probably go into a deep depression and quit on the gym as your water gains dissapear, and whatever strength gains you get (which you will get although they won't be very good) will dissapear literally overnight as the esters are out of your body and your test levels are in the double digits, and you will actually become weaker than you are right now with no energy

if that is what you are after then good luck. but i hate to see people waste their money and possibly damage their HPTA in the process. you will more than likely end up looking and feel worse after this.

not really us trying to dissuade you but more of a what the heck is the point of doing.. you would have better long term results training naturally and improving your diet than running juice. in this case running steroids will actually hurt you more than help. basically you ALREADY have plenty of test in your body as a young male, to throw that away and not use it is silly.

but what the heck do i know right? only been working out for the past 17 years (did not touch steroids till i was 28) and if you click on my profile i look like a russian tank. i guess those 20 year olds on those 'other sites' should be listened to over the vets on EF who have commented to you, who are the best of the best gym rats in the country. bottom line is you gotta love working out to adapt to this lifestyle, that means going through the pain and learning from trial and errors.. if you feel like you actually are gonna be able to lift as hard off cycle as on then go for it, if you have any doubts then its not too late to put down the needle for the next couple years and do things the best way

 

[buddhabuilder]

I recommend you order the HCGenerate and N2Guard from Need To Build Muscle right away. 2 bottles of each. That is all you need for this cycle. And clean up your diet like the man said. This thread is for your training and diet. If you wanna talk gear, which I think we pretty much hashed out already, start one on the other side. Your one chance is to tweak your diet like the man said. Keep researching diets in the forums, and find one that has proven effective.

You said you want a kick start for your training. After this, no gear for a couple years while you push your self as far as you can naturally.

 

[buddhabuilder]

Criminal, Make sure you read all the posts on this thread. Especially page 2. It looks like your most recent questions were answered there. Going for 4500 calories a day I tend to make one big amount of food that I carry around with me in plastic containers, then just hit a bunch of other staples. I tend to eat the same thing every day.

2 pounds of boneless chicken breast or lean red meat and 1 cup (uncooked) brown rice
2 double protein shakes
2 peppers
1 cup bran with milk
5 egg whites 1 piece of bread
16 ounces cottage cheese
2 pieces of fruit
16 ounces yogurt
1 balanced meal with my wife
a snack or 2

You can get free use of a program at calorieking.com for a week. You just put in what you eat, and it gives you a break down of carbs, protein, fat, and calories. I tried using examples of diets, but the variety of foods made things seem too complicated.

 

[buddhabuilder]

Criminal, Make sure you read all the posts on this thread. Especially page 2. It looks like your most recent questions were answered there. Going for 4500 calories a day I tend to make one big amount of food that I carry around with me in plastic containers, then just hit a bunch of other staples. I tend to eat the same thing every day.

2 pounds of boneless chicken breast or lean red meat and 1 cup (uncooked) brown rice
2 double protein shakes
2 peppers
1 cup bran with milk
5 egg whites 1 piece of bread
16 ounces cottage cheese
2 pieces of fruit
16 ounces yogurt
1 balanced meal with my wife
a snack or 2

You can get free use of a program at calorieking.com for a week. You just put in what you eat, and it gives you a break down of carbs, protein, fat, and calories. I tried using examples of diets, but the variety of foods made things seem too complicated.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Actually....Buddah is right bro. Hcgenerate will do you just as good. Plus you dont have to get bacteriostatic water, slin pins, mix it ect...

Steve is hammering on you about your diet and he is right. I havnt personally read your diet yet but definatley have to eliminate almost all sugars and shit carbs, bad fats, empty calories.

At your current body weight I would guess you can get away with 3000 or so calories daily. This will put plenty of mass on you if you keep the protein high. (minimum 300g daily)

Then during PCT you can up your calls to 4000 to try and help you hold on to as much as possible. Steve is right. You are going to lose alot more than you would if you had some base to work with. But I dont think its out of the question to hang on to some. At the least you should be able to completely recomp your appearance.
Make sure your doing cardio. IMHO....twice a day. If you cant then do 30 min post workout after every workout. Then do a hour on non workout days. Your heart will thank you and you'll burn some serious fat.

 

[buddhabuilder]

Hey Guys. I just saw a post on the other side. If we join the forum over at muscle research, follow this link;

Muscle Research Forums

we can get free products and stuff just for posting. say buddhabuilder sent you when asked who referred you, and see you there too!