My first cycle - sugestions?

[imer1337]

week
1 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 40mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

2 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 50mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

3 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 60mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

4 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 70mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

5 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 80mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

6 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 80mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

7 Test E 500ml/2-wk + AnavarED 80mg + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

8 Test E 500ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

9 Test E 250ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

10 Test E 250ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

11 Test E 250ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

12 Test E 250ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/wk + Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

13 Test E 125ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/E3D + Tribulus 2000mg/day Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

14 Test E 125ml/2-wk + Winny 50mg/E7D + Aromasin 12.5mg/E3D + Tribulus 2000mg/day Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

15 Test E 80 ml/2-wk + Aromasin 12.5mg/E3D + Tribulus 2000mg/day Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D

16 Test E 80 ml/2-wk + Aromasin 12.5mg/E3D + Tribulus 2000mg/day Ipamorelin 100mcg 3/D + Mod grf(1-29) 100mcg 3/D


PCT = Test tapering + aromasin + tribulus + peptides
Stats
Height 177cm
Weight 80 kg
Age 23
Body fat 20%

Test E = Muscle gains
Anavar = Muscles + fat burn
Winstrol = Lower SHBG (more effective test)
Aromasin = AI Reduce estrogen conversion in cycle + boosting natural testosterone in pct
Tribulus = Increasing natural test
Peptides = Better health + pct

Good to go? Help appreciated

 

[Shrine1]

Clomid 50/50/25/25mg www.ag-guys.com
Nolva 40/40/20/20mg www.ag-guys.com
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD www.ag-guys.com
HCGenerate ES www.N2BM.com
Unleashed/Post Cycle www.N2BM.com
Ostarine 25mg www.sarms1.com

Post PCT
Bridge www.N2BM.com

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[Mr. Chicago]

So is that week 1 - 8 500mg twice a week? A gram of test at 23, 176 lbs. and 20%BF? I think you should reconsider that bro.

 

[imer1337]

is really more pct needed if im doing test tapering?

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Yes, tapering only does so much.

 

[imer1337]

its actually 500mg /week divided into 2 shots but didnt know how to type it haha

 

[Mr. Chicago]

This is your first cycle? Come on man what's the rush? I've been training damn near 15 years, been using gear for a few years now and I'm still nowhere near a gram of test a week.

 

[imer1337]

im trying to say its 250mg twice week = 500mg/wk

 

[thecompound]

For you first cycle I would practice K.I.S.S... Test only 500mg weekly for 12 weeks. Hcg on and clomid or nolva off. AI on as well, see if you like stabbing yourself and the potential sides before you go up shits creek without a paddle.

 

[imer1337]

What does K.I.S.S mean? couldnt find anything on google

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Keep it simple stupid!

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Haha it's kind of an AA saying but it can be used in many aspects of life. I definitely agree with compound, stick to a test only cycle before you start adding orals, both because it will still be very beneficial but then you can see how you react to the most used and pillar of most cycles, TEST!

 

[imer1337]

Do i really need to run Aromasin EOD or E3D im scared to remove to much Estrogen

 

[jester72]

I'm with thecompound. 500mg/week of Test ONLY! No orals, no nothing! You have no idea how you're going to react, and if there's a problem, you'll have no clue what's causing it.

Seriously bro, I'm 41 and played 4 years of D-1 football. I didn't touch steroids until I was 37, and even then it was pro hormones like Katanadrol and Helladrol. I'll be stating my 3rd injectable cycle in a few weeks, and Sustanon is my "go to" if you will. I STILL haven't run more than 250mg/week, and still get good gains. No, I don't put on 25lbs a cycle. I believe in slow and steady gains, and am happy with 5-7lbs of lean muscle. I also keep damn near 100% of my gains every cycle as well.

My advice? Take it easy, and slow it down. No need to fry receptors with all that gear on your first cycle.
Plus, Anavar and Winny stacked for 7 weeks, and then another 7 weeks of Winny solo is insane. Even with support supps, your liver and joints are going to hate you!!!

 

[Mr. Chicago]

You could start with 12.5 twice a week and take it from there, unless you have sensitive nipples you're good to go at that dose, remember there are other positive effects from an AI other than keeping gyno at bay.