Most women are shitty in bed!!

[prime22]

Of course that is the hard part. We don't respect one another at all times. I remember when I used to buy into the crap about women being so peacful and pure...then I started dating and I began to see just how wrong that view could be.....LOL.

 

[prime22]

I do agree that sex for women is not a pretty thing when they first start but this is something I have always found amusing.....

I don't think anybody sees that there is also an amount of pressure on men when they first start. Now I know that a lot of men are gonna look at this reply like "WTF are you talking about" but hear me out for a minute.

It is always funny to me how roles in sex are played out. If your a woman who has never had sex before then you are looked at as a godess and precious jewel to be taken as a prize before any other man can. If your a man who has never had sex you are looked upon as a lump of coal that has yet to have been taken to that level of perfection known as a diamond. The funny part is that most men want a virgin woman but most women DON'T want a virgin man. I can remember being a teenager(like it was THAT long ago...lol) and having my uncle telling me to lie to women about my sexual experiences. My brother even told me the same crap. Never let a woman know that your a virgin because then your chances with her are shot to hell. I took that advice with a grain of salt. I did follow it after a while but I still kept wondering to myself...how in the hell am I gonna get her to believe that I'm not a virgin when I don't know enough about sex to begin with. As a result I had to play it by ear. Of course I did run across a woman who knew I was one but none the less she was understanding in the situation and after enough time, I was able to find out what pleased her and what didn't. This is why I feel that these games that people play are just too stupid in the long run. Everyone wants to get over on everyone else and in the end you hurt nobody but yourself. I am glad that I found a woman who was understanding enough to know that just because I was a virgin didn't mean I was completely useless in the bed.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that everytime we think things are just horrible for one side, it tends to be the same for the other. Maybe not in the same way but none the less it's not any easier. Do I feel bad for women, yes I do. However I don't think we should over look the fact that men have their own challenges and obstacles as well and it goes a long way to have someone who can be a true friend and be understanding. If men and women could look beyond all the bull shit with one another then maybe we could all just stop having this case of "sour grapes" and move on with something more important.

 

[nolin]

Wow!

Nolin, I agree with you that the age-old "battle of the sexes" has become lop-sided since the 1960s. Opposing the foolish idea that men are superior, too many young women have bought into the equally foolish feminist notion that women are superior.

I don't know why so many men go along with all the insults thrown at our sex -- you can't turn on the TV without getting the idea that all men are brainless, brutal sex-crazed beasts while all women are sensitive, peaceful, fair-minded saints.

Insecure women seem compelled to believe such nonsense to shore up their self-esteem, while others simply hate men because some guy has burned them. (Just like some guys in this thread have decided to hate all women because one or two ladies burned them.)

I think men are basically being insincere and patronizing when they go along with this female chauvenism. Shits come in male and female varieties, in about equal numbers, I would say.

The idea that women are so fair and peaceloving is a laugh when you look at history -- some of the bloodiest, most violent rulers have been women. More recently, Margaret Thatcher wasn't exactly a peacenik, if you recall.

If you don't know history, check out a woman fighting her ex-husband for custody of their children. You'll see just how "fair and peaceful" ladies can be. Even in nature, there is nothing more dangerous than an enraged mother bear.

I wish we could get back to a more equal view of the sexes. Lots of men act shitty, but so do lots of women. The shittiness is sometimes expressed differently ... women, usually smaller and weaker than men, use mind games, lying, and manipulation, while a male jerk often relies on his fists.

Have you ever seen a movie where a guy gets kicked in the balls, and all the women in the theatre laugh? I think that's an example of the imbalance you're talking about. How many men would laugh if a woman on the screen got her pussy slugged with a hammer? Only the filthiest goons, probably.

If we all just respected each other, men and women, none of this would matter ...

Wow, that was......a masterpiece! I didn't think I could say anything to expound upon that but, I can! I think your approach of taking responsibilty for the situation is indeed a healthy one, It's true that it's easier to change your behavior than some one elses. I have tried in many cases to help along some one, in one instance I had a girlfriend who had been molested as a child, I tried everything I could to convince her to go to therapy, but she wouldn't. She just didn't want to relive the pain. Cosequently she had a lot of sexual hang ups, I was very understanding and I tried to help her but she chose instead to drink herself into oblivion every weekend. I guess what I'm getting at is I think I'm getting tired of feeling responsible for another persons sexual pleasure. I have had to literally teach a lot of women I've been with how to have an orgasm, it would be nice if more women were in touch with their bodies and sexuality. I think generally men are more open and expressive about sex, and women more in touch with emotions, we can help each other in those areas but often when someone wants to be heard they have to scream to get attention. I think that's what the anger on this thread has been about. In the 60's and early 70's women did a lot of radical things to bring attention to inequality, many men and women wished these feminists would stop whining and shut up. But they didn't and things changed, I think that at first men are going to express anger , and then find resolution, this thread has been a great example. First anger, then backlash, then intelligent resolution. Hopefully it's a good sign that the sexes will again reach an equilibrium!

 

[TEXgrl]

i don't really think it is a matter of men or women in general not being any good or bad. i think it is a matter of how selfish the person as a whole is and doesn't have anything to do with their sex. i think you get back what you put into it. i also think maturity lends a big hand in things. my husband has gotton better and better with age.

 

[wyst]

Most of the women I've slept with are better in bed than most of the men. Granted, it's a smallish sample size, but that's what I've found. The men were generally willing to learn, though, and I've really not had any complaints about either sex. It's aaaaaaalllll good.

Wyst

 

[Ercole]

i also think maturity lends a big hand in things. my husband has gotten better and better with age. [/B]

That's the cool thing about marriage or another long-term relationship. You have time to teach each other how to do it right. If you "train" your spouse or partner right, no one else will ever be able to satisfy you the way they can.

My current relationship's only nine months old. I am CRAZY in love, but the sex is frankly far from the best I've had. But I'm taking responsibility for fixing the problem. You can't do it all at once:

"No no NO! You're doing it all wrong!"

That will destroy a person's self-confidence. Slowly, gradually lead them towards where you'd like them to be. And hopefully, they're doing the same with you.

One thing I can recommend: when they do it exactly right, make plenty of noise, so they KNOW they've hit the spot.

"OH BABY! OH OH OH! THAT'S INCREDIBLE! YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CUM!!!"

Don't keep it to yourself, or they'll never know what they did right and did wrong. And never openly let them know they aren't the best, or they'll feel like a failure and that will kill their interest in sex.

So if you love her, tell her she's the best on the planet on Day One ... then gradually, generously work with her until she IS the best. And encourage her to teach *you* what she likes and how she likes it. It's not always easy, but it's worth the effort.

(Excuse the pronouns ... they and them. I'm just trying to make this stuff more universal, but love and sex are pretty much the same no matter what team you play for.)

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I have been with a few women (60 or 70 I lost count). I can count on my fingers the ones that could actually fuck worth a damn. I have been with the same woman for the past 3 years and we never got tired of fucking each other (of course we were both sluts prior to our relationship and we knew what we liked and what to do). Well, 6 months ago we broke up due to some bullshit. We have been apart and I can honestly say that the 7 chicks I have been with, only one was truly fun. The bad thing is that she was married (pending divorce). I am actually considering going back to my ex. I figure I can work it out with her, because the sex never suffered.

I tell you, when you find that one that you can fuck more than 4 times without looking at your watch to see if World's Strongest Man or WWF Raw is on, you gotta hold on to her.

 

[pigginsly]

Damn you people can write some shit...
Live and let live...
All of it is good, imagine a world having all that you want...
What would you strive for?????
Good points, bad points......
Simutaneously...
Here we go!!!!

 

[Delinquent]

That's the cool thing about marriage or another long-term relationship. You have time to teach each other how to do it right. If you "train" your spouse or partner right, no one else will ever be able to satisfy you the way they can.

My current relationship's only nine months old. I am CRAZY in love, but the sex is frankly far from the best I've had. But I'm taking responsibility for fixing the problem. You can't do it all at once:

"No no NO! You're doing it all wrong!"

That will destroy a person's self-confidence. Slowly, gradually lead them towards where you'd like them to be. And hopefully, they're doing the same with you.

One thing I can recommend: when they do it exactly right, make plenty of noise, so they KNOW they've hit the spot.

"OH BABY! OH OH OH! THAT'S INCREDIBLE! YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CUM!!!"

Don't keep it to yourself, or they'll never know what they did right and did wrong. And never openly let them know they aren't the best, or they'll feel like a failure and that will kill their interest in sex.

So if you love her, tell her she's the best on the planet on Day One ... then gradually, generously work with her until she IS the best. And encourage her to teach *you* what she likes and how she likes it. It's not always easy, but it's worth the effort.

(Excuse the pronouns ... they and them. I'm just trying to make this stuff more universal, but love and sex are pretty much the same no matter what team you play for.)

I was about to post the same thing. If you're committed to someone it's much easier to learn one anothers "spots". My current girl and future wife will often beg me to stop after about 30 minutes b/c she take it anymore. I'm not trying to brag but this is what happens after you learn your other halfs most sensitive spots.

 

[Kahn]

Mine ain't most. She's awesome. Love me long time.