Most women are shitty in bed!!

[nolin]

Re: Re: Sounds like a flame to me

i cant respond to your post, as you were talking to kronk but i will say this, this area of Elite is for nasty sexual talk, talking dirty and things of that nature....it is meant to be here to stimulate and entertain....it would be a silly idea to take a post like this and turn it into a sticky.

as far as the men that have posted in response...i understand your point...however...i personally have recieved prolly a dozen PMs to the opposite, from both men and women....

DONT misunderstand what kronk or i said...........that is our opinions, not yours. we respect yours...so respects ours.....as between the sheets mods we are not deleting your post or anything.....so relax big fella........bump this post daily if that is what you feel that you need to do....not sure what the deal is with the sticky thing.....but just chill...you have your opinion...so keep posting it.....

Hey Kronkette, thanks for your thoughts. I think if this conversation leads to intelligent discourse and improves the sex lives of some members it's great entertainment! I am also surprised at the responses, some a bit more crude than my taste but hey, those are probably done more in fun than anything. You do make a good point that this isn't really a discussion board for social issues.....it's kind of grown legs. I admit it seems to be heading that way, I just wanted to vent that day and it really struck accord with a lot of men.

I think you and Kronk are cool,( not that you care) that's why I was really surprised at your responses. The sticky thing has to do with a thread that isn't an issue brought up all the time, something different. Everyday on this board were going to get polls about how big your dick is, do you like pussy blah blah and since this thread said something that most men are afraid to say and I think most women aren't aware of, it warranted being seen a lot, via a sticky. Some of what has been said is inflamatory, but I think there is truth and validity in it. I think we all have heard over and over and over about "what a girl wants, what a girl needs" and how men " just don't get it". I thought it was high time to give the opposing viewpoint. It was dissapointing to me that the people with the power and clout, (You and Kronk) refused to give validity to this viewpoint even by not commenting if necessary. Instead Kronk went out of his way to not only disagree,but to ignore members request to be heard by saying these views aren't worthy of a sticky and apologizing to the ladies. Come on, true empowerment comes with respect, and respecting women IMO is to not apologize for saying things they don't want to hear.

 

[prime22]

I was SOOOOOOOOOO glad to run across this thread. Here is a man who has FINALLY brought out to the public what I have been saying for the last few years. Do I think that some men are slefish? Yes. So are some women. I am also tired of society blamming all men for the problems between men/women relationships. I remember reading this story about how women are tired of men calling other women b*tches and h*es. I said to myself," As soon as those women stop acting like b*tches and h*es". Of course that may never happen but I think too many women don't see the OTHER half of the problem. Men call women those names because there are women who truly are those things. Instead of you women trying to beat men down about that, why don't you talk to your sisters and friends and tell them they need to stop acting like the names that they are called? Just an idea. Maybe it might make a difference.

 

[pigginsly]

I forget who said it , but..
" Life ain't nothing but bitches and money..."
If you don't like the work, get out of the kitchen...
Go get a dog or something...
Bulldogs are nice....
Play the game playa'!!!
Its more fun that way...

 

[Temple]

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND NOT A FLAME

I sincerely cant believe that this thread is still alive. The fact that so many men that have posted here feel that woman are shitty in bed, just cracks me up.

Have any of you even stopped to realize that it may be you that is shitty in bed. Don't get me wrong, I have been with many women that were no where near as good as me, and so that couldn't even make me cum. However, I took those ladies as a challenge, and I decided that if I pleasured them more than they ever have had it in their entire life, then the sex would get better.

As a result, most of the women start begging for sex and they learn how to get better and understand what my hot buttons are etc. I have been with ladies that after I broke it off, they still wanted to have sex with me, WHY?, because I took the time to give them the best pleasure of their life. I made their eyes roll back in their head, whether or not she was doing it for me.

Bottom line is this, (IMO), men who bitch that women are no good in bed are more often than not a bunch of teenage boys, or men that are simply no good themselves. Most teenage boys think that they are so good in bed (I did when I was that age), but the truth is that you really suck. All they worry about is getting off and how good the women is, never stopping to realize that they might be the one that sucks ass. Most men, think they are the shit, but don't take the time to have really good foreplay, or take the time to communicate and find out what it is that makes the girl go made. Once you start doing this, women will be all over you, period.

Again, this is just my opinion and I am not saying that any of you that replied are this way, but I will say that before you say a women sucks in bed, take the time to understand her first and then give her the pleasure of her life.

As far as making this a sticky, I don't think so. Personally I am surprised that it has got as many responses that it has. However, bump it up all day long, but I am not going to make a post a sticky.

To all the ladies out there, I apologize that you have to see this kind of attitude from men, remember that it is not indicative of most men.

Kronk - that is EXACTLY what my husband said when he read this thread. I don't post much over here but this board has created many interesting conversations at our house

 

[wlibbe]

Nolin~

You must not be with the right women if only one has ever made you cum from a blow job. That is just my opinion. Most women are not good at pleasing men because they are too damn scared and insecure to try new things and really focus on the man for a change. It is just as fulfilling for me to make a man cum as it is for me to. Just my 2 cents. I hope that you find a woman who can please you.

 

[Ercole]

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

 

[nolin]

That's funny

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

I must admit that's funny But don't forget sometimes those crazy ones are great at disguising themselves at first! One quick question, I think I have responded thoughtfully and in a well spoken manner. However no one has really commented on the coddling women thing, I was wondering your thoughts on that point since you seem like an intelligent individual although we have opposing views.

 

[Ercole]

Cure #3: Read Kronk's post over again.

Men who are good in bed simply don't go around complaining about women who aren't. They take responsibliity for their own experience.

If a woman's off-base, they gently teach her how to do stuff the way they like it.

The best way to attract a woman who's terrific in bed is to be terrific yourself. If you're one of those slam-bam kids with no understanding of foreplay or what your woman is feeling, she's going to feel like a hole in the ground because she's waiting patiently for you to come so she can do something more interesting, like checking what's on TV.

If she's just lying there -- hello, dude! It's because YOU AREN'T TURNING HER ON. So figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it. When a man takes the time and trouble to turn a woman on, trust me, she won't just lie there. She'll start flashing and ringing like a pinball machine delivering the big jackpot.

(Sorry to compare you to a machine, ladies. I couldn't think of a better metaphor ...)

 

[prime22]

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

And here we are with another classic example of the blame being placed on MEN and not so much on the WOMEN. LEt's be honest people, there are just too many women in the world with problems. They are not ALL crazy but there are alot of them who are just not seeing that they are also a reason for these problems between men and women.

Now to the person who replied earlier about how sex starts for a woman. This is the part I found to be funny......

"most men (boys) don't take the time to make a woman feel good..they think that sticking in and humping away is what its all about"....

Do you know how many WOMEN think that all there is to sexing a man is for them to bounce up and down or just lay there? My goodness I don't think your seeing the point here...

In this world it has always been about the men pleasing the women and that's it. You always hear about men trying to find ways to make the women happy in bed. Now how many times do you find women trying to find out how to please men? Not as often I will admit. Or here is my favorite one though......

"we usually have to deal with a guy who is just there to get there rocks off and has no clue to what he is doing. hell we could be a hole in the floor and as long as it feels good to him...he doesn't care...we just have the little extras of having tits....by this time us girls learn that there is more to sex than just penetration....hmmm, we learn that if it is done right..it feels good...but the other sex hasn't learned this yet."

What is the LACK of COMMUNICATION????!!! Why are we so scared in this world to talk to someone and let them know that they are not doing the job? Yeah it hurts to hear the truth but guess what? When you know what the real deal is then you can go on to become better and then the fun really starts. Most women I run across don't really know what they like in bed. They are still in the early stages of sexual pleasure. I think it's best to let your partner know what the deal is and get them to understand that it can be better but the two of you are going to have to work on that together. If he/she doesn't want to listen then you need to find a new bedroom buddy because it is not going to work. This is just my honest opinion.

 

[Ercole]

Nolin, I agree with you that the age-old "battle of the sexes" has become lop-sided since the 1960s. Opposing the foolish idea that men are superior, too many young women have bought into the equally foolish feminist notion that women are superior.

I don't know why so many men go along with all the insults thrown at our sex -- you can't turn on the TV without getting the idea that all men are brainless, brutal sex-crazed beasts while all women are sensitive, peaceful, fair-minded saints.

Insecure women seem compelled to believe such nonsense to shore up their self-esteem, while others simply hate men because some guy has burned them. (Just like some guys in this thread have decided to hate all women because one or two ladies burned them.)

I think men are basically being insincere and patronizing when they go along with this female chauvenism. Shits come in male and female varieties, in about equal numbers, I would say.

The idea that women are so fair and peaceloving is a laugh when you look at history -- some of the bloodiest, most violent rulers have been women. More recently, Margaret Thatcher wasn't exactly a peacenik, if you recall.

If you don't know history, check out a woman fighting her ex-husband for custody of their children. You'll see just how "fair and peaceful" ladies can be. Even in nature, there is nothing more dangerous than an enraged mother bear.

I wish we could get back to a more equal view of the sexes. Lots of men act shitty, but so do lots of women. The shittiness is sometimes expressed differently ... women, usually smaller and weaker than men, use mind games, lying, and manipulation, while a male jerk often relies on his fists.

Have you ever seen a movie where a guy gets kicked in the balls, and all the women in the theatre laugh? I think that's an example of the imbalance you're talking about. How many men would laugh if a woman on the screen got her pussy slugged with a hammer? Only the filthiest goons, probably.

If we all just respected each other, men and women, none of this would matter ...