JKurz1 said:
this quote made me laugh.
"now i really doubt you'd NEED to follow MM HIT to gain some mass while eating. you could just go in to the gym, with just a plan to do x sets for each body part"
Do you really think training intensity isn't important and there isn't a fine line between working the muscle to failure and overtraining? You gotta be kidding me.
Oh if it were just that easy then nobody would be here asking questions and trying new training routines/diet plans/drugs etc
i'm not sure what you understood from my post - i don't think i made my point too clearly so here goes.
the point i was trying to make was that you could beat the crap out of your muscles every time you go into the gym - whether it's supersets, drop sets, to failure, slow negatives, whatever. so you go in with only a plan to do x sets per body part. so week 1 you may bench 200x10 as your max set and do some assortment of other exercises. you come in on monday, week 2 and say you're feeling good so you manage 220x8. now week 3, you don't feel too good and you can only manage a max set of 180x10. and it continues like this for all exercises and each week. basically i'm highlighting a method where there's no plan for progression over time, just a plan to beat the crap out of the muscles each time you work out. that's what 99% of bodybuilding wannabes will be doing. then there's an option like MM's HIT, which correct me if i'm wrong, does not focus much (if at all) on actually getting strong enough - not in a neural range of 1-3 reps, nor in a hypertrophy range of 8-12 reps and not even in the intermediate range (strength + hypertrophy) of 5-8. but using both these methods, you could eat like crazy and become bigger.
what i'm asking is whether throwing progression in a given rep range out of the window a good idea? i don't think so, whether you're a bodybuilder or not. yes biggt trains primarily for strength... but that's not the point. what he's done is to choose his focus rep range which happens to be for strength. so he gets stronger in that range while doing enough of higher rep stuff for hypertrophy, because hypertrophy will also improve his strength. he could just as easily choose to do it the other way around with a greater focus on improving lifts in the higher rep ranges and do enough to stay strong in the lower rep ranges too.
if a change is what you want and you don't want to get on a 5x5, why not try the shadows old school method. or maybe even the WSB for bodybuilders.
PS: i just remembered - needsize is a good example of a bodybuilder (and he is jacked and looks better than at least 99% on this site) who's been working the 5 rep range for years. no he doesn't follow the bill starr method. NS's method is also a 5x5 which he kind of discovered on his own through years of experience in the gym.
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