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How often do you use machines or at all and whats your reasons?
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JDid23
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they have their place in training, but compounds are still the foundation of any good program....
i think the reason why they get such a bad rap is because a lot of people tend to use them for the majority of their training because they are too afraid to do the big lifts, or because they just don't know any better.
i think the reason why they get such a bad rap is because a lot of people tend to use them for the majority of their training because they are too afraid to do the big lifts, or because they just don't know any better.
this stilll confuses me. I see big people use machines and i think wtf why do i do deadlifts and bb rows. But i am smarter than that, compound lifts burn more calories, build stronger bones, promote more testosterone (free weight atg squats), and they actually make you less prone to injury than machines.
lets thing, i use machines for arms, calves, shoulders, occasionally back, and legs. So yes they have their place in training, although I dont use only machines for those muscles, except calves.
calves - calf raises
bi's - preacher curl machine
tri's - tricep pushdown
shoulders - behind the neck smith machine press
back - occasionally i do seated cable rows
legs - leg press
calves - calf raises
bi's - preacher curl machine
tri's - tricep pushdown
shoulders - behind the neck smith machine press
back - occasionally i do seated cable rows
legs - leg press
Machines also teach your muscles to work when your body is relaxing, like sitting of lying down. So that makes you more prone to injury
JDid23
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you're sitting during some other lifts too.. basically most chest work- i am guessing this different because you're using stabilizers and if you're doing it correctly, your legs as well??
Yea, basically when you need to use your chest in real life you'll have to push it while balancing it. it wont be like a machine where it goes straight up and down, so yea your stabilizers aren't being used on machines which lead to injuries because your body hasn't learned to do shit other than on a machine, which isn't really practical for out of the gym stuff.
There are some machines that are ok, but they should not be the basis for your training imo. I see many guys for their first set of back go to a machine and I guess they just dont understand that theres more to lifting weights than looks. It is about overall health as well.
kx250rider
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It all depends on what machines we're talking about.... Wee-hours-of-the-morning infomercial machines are worth their weight in recyclable tin and plastic, but real machines used correctly are a key part of my workout, as I bet they are with a lot of seasoned lifters. For me, it's free weights 70% and machines 30%... I've been lifting for 25+ years. My fundamentals are my free weights (smith machine since I work out alone), and my preacher bench, and my dumbells. However, I'd hate to be without a pec deck, and my high pulley. I have back trouble, so I have to be careful with shoulder presses, dead lifts, or military presses. I use the smith machine (a real Parabody professional one; not a Sears cheapie), for benching and and shoulder/military presses. I use the pec deck in addition to dumbell flys, and it works well for me. And the high pulley is way better for me, than trying to strap plates on my waist and doing pullups (low ceiling; would hit head on fans)... I can pull down whatever I want, with my legs clamped in place. I also use it for rows, in addition to bentover dumbell rows. For legs, I go pretty much all machine since I have bad knees. My leg gym consists of a lying leg curl, seated extension, and seated press (all selectorized type). I do have a plate-loaded hack squat machine, but I can't honestly say it's part of my regular routine.
Charles
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Lol I dont eat fast food 5x a day anymore! And machines arent totally useless imo, like injury wise, but other than that it should be MOSTLY free weights.
skillz2009
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i find the new modern machines a waste of time...i thought machines were there to hold the weight and you do the required movement, but it seems these modern machines assist the user a bit and are nicely balanced to help you
