love does not exist. friendship does not exist.

[Forge]

i would appreciate, if anyone sees me say something helpful on this board or others, to tell me to stop bullshitting myself and others, and get with it. get off the net, get off your arse, and help yourself, because thats all you have.

One of my best friends has a saying, he's had it for years and I don't know where he got it from, but the more I live the more I see just how amazingly true it is:

The dick always goes somewhere.

It's his colorful way of saying "if you aren't fucking someone else, then you are getting fucked yourself".

The meaning is that every human act is selfish. Love, friendship, greed, hate, they are all names we give to feelings and it's all made of people either taking advantage of someone else or getting taking advantage of themselves. I love my wife because she makes me happy and I want her to keep making me happy. I have many old friends and I want to keep them as friends because I like them, they remind me of good times and help me when I need help. I go to work every day because I need money to pay the bills and buy things. All of these things make me happier, I have them in my life because I want them.

When I married my wife I royally upset an ex-girlfriend who wanted to desperately get back together with me. My choice to love my wife made my ex miserable for a long time. I have one friend who I no longer talk to because he still has a social high-school mentality, and he backstabbed me too many times out of spite. He's "changed" now and wants to reconcile, but I do not want to because another one of my friends hates him, and I do not want to lose the good friendship for someone who I can't trust anymore. My choice of friends hurts others. Six years ago I quit a job to work where I do today for more money. My leaving was a huge blow to the company, they never did find a good replacement for me. They closed a year later, not entirely due to my leaving but it played a large part as I started a kind of exodus. My greed not only hurt a company and business owner, but all of his employees as well.

If you look at every choice close enough, you can discern a selfish reason for it, no matter what the situation is. Sometimes it is a subtle selfish act, sometimes it's more than subtle. More importantly, many selfless acts are returned in kind by someone else taking advantage of it. When someone sees an opening to better their own life, they usually take it even if it hurts another person in the process. Thus, you GF leaving you for greener pastures, even though she thinks you are "the greatest guy in the world". If she truly thought that, she wouldn't be looking for something else somewhere else.

The key to both life and happiness is IMHO this: learn when to make your own selfish goals a priority; and learn when to put them aside, thereby opening yourself up to possibly be hurt.

The sad situation in this human world is that sometimes you are better off helping yourself than helping others. The trick is to know when to sieze your chances and when to give the chance to someone else. In the end we are all pursuing our own happiness, it's just human instinct.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.

Jesus, must you be such a dick to people?

 

[Tiervexx]

Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.

Beat me too it.

I think that everyone's understanding and appreciation for their relationships would improve if they could understand that nobody owes them anything.

If someone is your friend it is only because they want to, they do not owe you their friendship, or love.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Beat me too it.

I think that everyone's understanding and appreciation for their relationships would improve if they could understand that nobody owes them anything.

If someone is your friend it is only because they want to, they do not owe you their friendship, or love.

Even though i somewhat agree with this, there are better ways to state it than just verbally abusing people for letting others know they had something bad happen to them.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Even though i somewhat agree with this, there are better ways to state it than just verbally abusing people for letting others know they had something bad happen to them.

Please...this thread was not a detailed vocalization of Golden's problem, it was a childish attack on virtues and values, all because Golden didn't get what he wanted. Because he got hurt he is going to denounce the idea of "love" and "friendship", as if their existence was contingent upon him attaining them; wake the fuck up. I reject his assertion because I can demonstrate the existence of friendship and love in numerous instances.

Aesop's Fables "The Fox and its Tail" should be read to all children as a teaching against such beliefs.

 

[Gambino]

GoldenD, i'm currently recovering from some bullshit as well. It's taking some time, but I'm finally realising that it was bullshit... You got to think of it like this, gal who boots you is fukking up. It's her fukking loss dude...she'll realise it, but it will be too late, cause you'll be with someone else. It takes women a while to realise this, but they always do. Men suffer immediatley, and recover quick...women suffer latter, and for longer...hang in their pimp





fuk it. Back pack a bag of stolen pills (xanax, vicodin, addarall, and valium) and take a walkabout...isn't that what aussies do?

 

[Lao Tzu]

Please...this thread was not a detailed vocalization of Golden's problem, it was a childish attack on virtues and values, all because Golden didn't get what he wanted. Because he got hurt he is going to denounce the idea of "love" and "friendship", as if their existence was contingent upon him attaining them; wake the fuck up. I reject his assertion because I can demonstrate the existence of friendship and love in numerous instances.

Aesop's Fables "The Fox and its Tail" should be read to all children as a teaching against such beliefs.

He will not spend his life like this, this is just a temporary reaction to a bad event. True this could be a good learning experience but you could have pointed that out in a much less haughty and belligerent fashion.

 

[juve]

Back pack a bag of stolen pills (xanax, vicodin, addarall, and valium) and take a walkabout)

You'd better not be combining all of that at once

 

[atlantabiolab]

He will not spend his life like this, this is just a temporary reaction to a bad event. True this could be a good learning experience but you could have pointed that out in a much less haughty and belligerent fashion.

If I thought that he was 12, then maybe I would have addressed this differently, but Golden has stated that he is a pharmacist, thus I assume he is at least late 20's, unless he is Doogie Howser. Because of this, I will not partake in wiping his ass, a simple blunt to the point response is all that is needed.

 

[Lao Tzu]

If I thought that he was 12, then maybe I would have addressed this differently, but Golden has stated that he is a pharmacist, thus I assume he is at least late 20's, unless he is Doogie Howser. Because of this, I will not partake in wiping his ass, a simple blunt to the point response is all that is needed.

Your response wasn't constructive. What do you think will happen when you insult someone for not thinking the way you do, that they will back down and agree? Thats not how the world works, you should know that. You could've pointed your views out in a less haughty fashion, but you chose to present them in as abusive a fashion as you could. Your true motives (haughtiness and arrogance) are obvious. If you wanted to help anyone you could've done so differently.