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Cipp21

Cipp21

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Hey guys, noob on the forum here. Figured I'd post my LGD journey on here for those of you that are hungry for info on this compound.

-Stats-
Age: 22
Height: 5'8
Cycle Experience: NONE
Weight: 178
Body fat: ~13%

-Cycle Plan-
(Start Date/End Date: May 20/July 15)
(1-2) LGD 1mg ED AM
(2-3) LGD 2mg ED AM
(3-8) LGD 3mg ED AM
(4-8) Forma Stanzol (5 Pumps AM, 5 Pumps PM)

-PCT-
(9-12) Finaflex Revolution Black PCT
(9-12) Finaflex Pure Test
(9-N/A) Forma Stanzol (Until the bottle is gone)
(9-12) Considering using some of my Ostarine 25mg ED

-Weekly Activity-
(M-F) 8hrs Landscaping
(M-T, S) 1-2hrs Krav Maga (Martial Arts)

-Lifting Split-
Day 1: Chest/Biceps/Triceps
Day 2: Legs/Abs (Every other day HIIT replaces legs)
Day 3: Back/Shoulders/Traps
Day 4: OFF
REPEAT

I plan on maintaining at least a 500cal surplus to see how much muscle you can really get out of this stuff. I've also seen lots of reports of massive hunger so it might work great for this little bulk. I plan on cutting after PCT to 9-10% BF to prepare for the winter bulk. Questions/Comments are always welcome!
 
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May 20

First dose of LGD this morning at 8am. You don't really realize this stuff is a research chemical until you taste it... the taste is comparable to taking a shot of your own earwax. I slaughtered my Chest and Arms today, no PRs to record. Haven't lifted with such intensity in a while, but I give majority of that credit to the motivation of my first cycle. I did get an unusually great pump, when my biceps would normally pump 1/2in they pumped a full inch today.


May 21

Dosed at 8am this morning. I had a bit of an upset stomach after dosing today, as well as after my first dose.Could be the taste, could be the compound, not for sure as of now as it is too early to tell. I have noticed a bit of euphoria throughout the 1-2 hours after taking it, maybe placebo. I'm down 2lbs, probably a bit dehydrated from working in the sun yesterday. Good leg workout, I felt good and it showed in the weight room. Leg day is normally my least favorite, but it didn't seem to bother me much at all today. Great feelings all day!
 
bigdeem said:
What made you decide to try an unknown sarm for first cycle?

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Good question. Lgd isn't really "unknown", it's just new. There have been enough people who have taken it with very minimal sides for me to decide its worth a try. I mean sure, I could have done what everyone else does first time and run something like a test cycle, but why put myself through unnecessary sides? As an oral it has more potential to me than another more researched compound due to the absence of liver toxicity (not quite proven yet). I see where you're coming from, it's dumb as hell to take anything that nobody has posted info about, but there are enough things we know about it that would me believe its relatively safe. Besides, my body is a condition that has never been touched by other compounds, so if anything I will bounce back much quicker than an experienced user in the small chance that something goes wrong. I could go on for days answering questions on my choices for anything in life. This is kind of like asking anyone else here why they decided to try any PH or AAS in the first place knowing all of the slight, but severe risks.
 
Cipp21 said:
Good question. Lgd isn't really "unknown", it's just new. There have been enough people who have taken it with very minimal sides for me to decide its worth a try. I mean sure, I could have done what everyone else does first time and run something like a test cycle, but why put myself through unnecessary sides? As an oral it has more potential to me than another more researched compound due to the absence of liver toxicity (not quite proven yet). I see where you're coming from, it's dumb as hell to take anything that nobody has posted info about, but there are enough things we know about it that would me believe its relatively safe. Besides, my body is a condition that has never been touched by other compounds, so if anything I will bounce back much quicker than an experienced user in the small chance that something goes wrong. I could go on for days answering questions on my choices for anything in life. This is kind of like asking anyone else here why they decided to try any PH or AAS in the first place knowing all of the slight, but severe risks.
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I agree. Good luck. You should enjoy its benefits
 
I'll be following this! I have a bottle of LGD sitting around right now that I hope to start up in a few weeks. I bulged a disc in my back that pinched my sciatic nerve in october so im interested in seeing if this stuff has the same effects on joints/tendons etc as ostarine does!
 
shotgunsays said:
I'll be following this! I have a bottle of LGD sitting around right now that I hope to start up in a few weeks. I bulged a disc in my back that pinched my sciatic nerve in october so im interested in seeing if this stuff has the same effects on joints/tendons etc as ostarine does!
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I might be able to help ya on that one a bit. I messed up my knee sparring and it's bothered me for around 2 months now, I'll make sure to put a couple updates on it when I notice any differences. Sounds like a painful injury tho!
 
May 22

Dosed at 8:30am this morning. I'm getting used to the taste of the LGD, and the upset stomach wasn't very prevelant after dosing. I'm definently noticing a bit more endurance and uplifted mood throughout the day. Back, shoulders, and traps today and I felt strong. +5lbs on my bent over BB rows and an extra rep or two on most of my lifts. Zero sides, but I wouldn't expect any this early anyways, and I have noticed my appetite is up a bit. Shoveling in food wasn't much of a problem. No massive hunger pains like others have reported yet though.
 
Forma and some test boosters like methyl EAA and test infusion + ostarine would work nicely
 
May 23

Today was my first day off. Dosed at my normal AM dose, no more stomach ache so we can count that one out ha. Woke up with minimal DOMs this morning, normally my traps and shoulders feel like falling off and my lats get sore mid day after a 21 set workout so this was thoroughly enjoyed! I had to do a double take in the mirror this morning before I got in the shower, I was still pumped from last night and it stayed that way until around 1-2pm. Endurance was really prevalent today, managed to pull off a full working day and get to my Krav class feeling like I just woke up from a full nights sleep. Sparred like an animal! No sides to report, but this whole "well being" thing seen in SARMs is awesome, seem to feel better every day. Sleep has been great for the past couple of nights, had some pretty vivd dreams and my parents heard some sleep talking. The appetite is really something to be noted on this SARM, I am normally a pretty big eater (come from an Italian family) but I feel like I don't have to ever stop eating on this. I haven't been getting the food cravings, but when I eat I don't really ever feel full. ~4k calories a day, possibly more because my serving sizes are larger than the ones given on MyFitnessPal, and I'm taking in a bit over 200g of protein a day.

Glad to see some people dropping in too!

If there's anything specific you guys want to see any reports on as well let me know!
 
round2 said:
looking good
you still at 1m ed or did you bump up?
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Still at 1mg ED until Monday. Seems like a pretty optimal way to run it to me, slow ramp up allows more time for your body to adjust, a good precaution against sides, and the bottle will last exactly 2 cycles this way if I run the same doses again in the future :)
 
Anybody else who has taken LGD notice that it has little floating particles you can see when it's sitting in the syringe? It's not totally clear.
 
It's just the solution it is suspended in. I've seen this with any liquid chem I've used, except SS. Always shake the bottle a few times before drawing with the syringe
 
Jbranken said:
It's just the solution it is suspended in. I've seen this with any liquid chem I've used, except SS. Always shake the bottle a few times before drawing with the syringe
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Cool, I figured it was normal. I always shake it up pretty good, just gotta make sure to really keep pressure down in the cap or it tends to leak a bit ha. Unique needs to look into some new bottles I think. The seal even came right off when I first took the cap off.
 
Cipp21 said:
Anybody else who has taken LGD notice that it has little floating particles you can see when it's sitting in the syringe? It's not totally clear.
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i noticed that with s4 and osta in the past... like said above just shake before you draw .....
i believe my lgd ships today :)
 
May 24

Dosed at normal time today. Back at it harder than ever today with Chest, Bis, and Tris! Absolutely killed it in the gym, I finally feel this stuff is really starting to kick in. I upped half of my lifts by 10lbs and cranked out at least 2 more reps on everything else. I was up 2lbs on the scale as well, but I can't verify that as anything until after I weigh myself again in the morning. The pump I had afterwards was incredible, and I think the stretch marks along my biceps got bigger (bad but good). Not even a hint of a single side yet, and I can't wait until I up the dosage. Im worried I might get addicted if these results keep up :D
 
Don't check scale Ed if you do don't let it affect you your weight flocculates so much threw the day go by the mirror not the scale but I'm glad to see a log for this sarm do you by chance have before pics? It will be beneficial to the log to compare
 
Idobehigh said:
Don't check scale Ed if you do don't let it affect you your weight flocculates so much threw the day go by the mirror not the scale but I'm glad to see a log for this sarm do you by chance have before pics? It will be beneficial to the log to compare
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I check the scale ED just to watch for trends. I figure it's better than once a week because you could have a drastic fluctuation on that particular day. I only verify a weight gain if it stays consistent for ~3 days. My weight doesn't fluctuate too much due to weighing myself every morning before breakfast and after the morning deuce. I do agree though with Mirror>Scale, expecially because SARMs are known for their recomp abilities. I have some before pics, couldn't forget those :)
 
How's the increased hunger? is it pretty noticeable, like always thinking about food? Or more subtle like just eating more when you eat?
 
shotgunsays said:
How's the increased hunger? is it pretty noticeable, like always thinking about food? Or more subtle like just eating more when you eat?
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Majority of the logs I've read a testimonials claim mega hunger pains. Personally I haven't felt any of those, but when I do eat it takes a TON of food for me to actually feel full. I'm a little over 4k cals a day without ever feeling full.
 
Great log man.

If anyone followimg is interested in buyimg a bottle or two of the lgd at a discount hit me up via pm.

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May 25

Took the dose an hour late today, slept in a little. The sleep on LGD is pretty amazing, I'm having vivid dreams every night. ZERO DOMS all day, I haven't experienced this in a very long time, expecially after a 28 set Chest and arms routine! Worked for around 10 hours today an still had energy afterwards for some HIIT and Abs. I worked the heavy bag for around an hour, half being warm up and the other being 2min full out rounds with the bag. Endurance seems to be getting even better. I'm HIGHLY impressed with the changes I've been seeing in the mirror, my weight hasn't made too much of an increase but I can safely say I've put on a good 1-1.5lbs of solid muscle already! These results I've seen in almost a week have been more than I would normally see after a natty 1month bulk without any fat gain. I can't wait to up the dosage on Monday, too bad I can't look into the future and see my body after this cycle :)
 
Cipp21 said:
Majority of the logs I've read a testimonials claim mega hunger pains. Personally I haven't felt any of those, but when I do eat it takes a TON of food for me to actually feel full. I'm a little over 4k cals a day without ever feeling full.
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I started LGD last Monday at 3m/l per day, absolutely no change in hunger for me.
 
Absolutely nothing so far, but work commitments meant I did not get to the gym at all last week, so am thinking the hunger may come from working out in the gym, will hopefully find out with my usual gym routine Mon Wed Friday starting tomorrow.

I will also start log so as not to spoil yours, I have split my bottle into 3 between 3 of us to see how we all get on at 3mg per day for a month

Sorry, its 3mg, not 3ml, I am taking 0.3 ml per day.
 
May 26

Dosed at 10:00am this morning, finally had a day off from work meaning I could lift at a decent hour. Took a PWO supp beforehand for the first time this cycle and GOOD GOD! LGD has been all I've needed for endurance, pump, energy, and motivation and preworkout put it way over the top. I crushed every single PR for this Back/Shoulders/Traps day! 90% of my lifts increased by 10lbs and the 1 or 2 I hit 10 rep on and will be upping next session. Today was also my last day at 1mg, upping it to 2mg for this next week. Can't wait to really start seeing some big results. Not a single side, and I'll be upping my calories a bit now as well. I've begun to notice a very full muscle feeling now as well, almost like I'm always pumped, makes me feel even better!
 
May 27

Off day today. First dose at 2mg and I couldn't be more excited. Woke up and had trouble falling back asleep, I'm assuming it was due to taking a pre-workout for the first time in awhile at a later time. Today was an off day, great family get together for Memorial Day. Had a nice pump all day long and zero DOMS! No sides to report either. Excited to hit my chest and arms routine tomorrow!
 
May 28

Dosed my 2mg at 8am. Chest/Bis/Tris today, my favorite routine. My motivation to lift is through the roof, I feel good ALL THE TIME! Really noticed the endurance kicking in during my Krav classes today, I'll sweat like a monster but never really tire out. As for my lifting, I couldn't be happier. Reps increased on a majority of my lifts and I'll be upping the weights AGAIN next session. Still no sides to report! I've been on this stuff for a week, and this morning I took a good look in the mirror. After having an off day you can really gage changes because I'm normally always pumped 24hrs after lifting on this stuff. It looks like I've gotten leaner (1% BF drop) or I've put on enough muscle in my upper body to make myself appear much leaner. Time will tell me more, but if the first option is true I've been recomping on a 500-750cal surplus.....good god. My physique has made very noticeable changes in just 1 week at just 1mg. Still no massive hunger pains everyone reports, but that could also be because I'm on a surplus. In other logs it looks like most people really start noticing it kicking in during the second week, if this is true I can hardly wait!

Thanks for all the support, glad to be the Guinea pig with such a promising looking SARM :)
 
Hey man glad it seems to be working out for ya! It seems like a pretty damn good addition to the SARM world! Good work!
Keep us posted
 
May 29

Dosed at normal 8AM time. Slept horribly last night and it really took a toll on me today. For some reason it seems preworkout supps stay in my system much longer while I'm running LGD. I seem to only have sleeplessness on days I take a PWO. Only 3.5-4 hours of sleep killed me throughout the 10 hour work day, plus it was hot and humid. I still had energy to make it to my Krav classes, but had zero motivation to lift legs. Instead I swapped today's leg day with my HIIT/abs day. Having no motivation + tiredness always mean a horrible lifting session for me so I'll be doing my leg routine later this week. Other than that still no sides! No DOMS either! Still feeling pretty great, even though I was a bit moody today from the lack of sleep. I plan on hitting my back and shoulders hard tomorrow.
 
do you really feel you need the pre work outs wile on a run?
i find will i am running gear or sarms (not lgd yet) that there is really no need for pre work outs. i was sold on the idea of them for a wile. but when my work outs started lasting twice what my pre work out sup did. i gave them up.... i never liked the roller coaster energy level thing any way....
hit them legs hard bud.... the more you train them the more you start to love to train them........
 
round2 said:
do you really feel you need the pre work outs wile on a run?
i find will i am running gear or sarms (not lgd yet) that there is really no need for pre work outs. i was sold on the idea of them for a wile. but when my work outs started lasting twice what my pre work out sup did. i gave them up.... i never liked the roller coaster energy level thing any way....
hit them legs hard bud.... the more you train them the more you start to love to train them........
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Yea I'm ending the PWO supp while on. Definently don't feel the need. I guess it's just an old bad habit ha, they work great when I need an extra boost in the gym off cycle, but are far too much while on, expecially if its causing sleep problems. Ha I love leg days, but only when my body is ready to move some serious weight
 
May 30

Normal dose time AM. Back/Shoulders/Traps today, nothing ultra spectacular, it was a long hot day at work. Half of my lifts stayed consistent and the other ones I added some poundage. Experimented a bit with a few of the lifts too. I've noticed vascular its starting to increase. I'm not normally a very vascular guy but I'm starting to see some large veins pop up all over my arms lately! I'm up 3lbs from my starting weight and I don't see any noticeable fat gain in the mirror, I've gotten a bit leaner if anything. Still zero sides!

Anyone else noticed that people seem to start logs and never finish them?
 
Looks good so far man! Keep up the intensity and Im curious to see what the next few weeks bring, good work. And yeah, don't stop this log haha

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shotgunsays said:
ive started a few and never finished... thats why were counting on you to keep up with this one!
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I've noticed that finishing logs seems to be major problem. I've never done one myself. I usually just post my results. I'm not criticizing, just wondering why you never finished your logs?

I have three bottles of LGD 4033. I haven't tried them. I'm currenly using Osterine as a standalone. If I don't see any results by week 3-4, I may drop the Ostarine and go with LGD 4033 for a couple of weeks. It seems to work fast for most.
 
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Hows your blood pressure holding up?

I've been running LGD-4033 for 7 days, and i just checked my blood pressure and saw that its out of control - 170/100

I love how i look after the first week, but im going to have to stop taking it right away.. wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar reaction
 
FauxShow said:
Hows your blood pressure holding up?

I've been running LGD-4033 for 7 days, and i just checked my blood pressure and saw that its out of control - 170/100

I love how i look after the first week, but im going to have to stop taking it right away.. wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar reaction
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I just checked mine for you. Three times 140/70, 143/71, 136/70 a bit higher than usual. Normally being on cycle increases your RBC count, therefore raising your blood pressure. Excess water retention will raise it as well. 170/100 is really high, have you been consistently checking it? Any stress or other strenuous activity before your readings? It fluctuates quite a bit throughout the day, maybe try again in a couple of hours, might've been a bad reading
 
May 31

Normal dose time today. Today was my off day, got quite a bit of work done around the house. Still no sides, unless you count a slight increase in blood pressure as stated in a post above. Still having super vivid dreams! I'm at the point now where DOMs are nonexistent. Libido is through the fucking roof and my mojo makers are super pumped. Looking even better in the mirror, and I'll give a good report on that tomorrow when my lats, traps and shoulders aren't bulging from last nights workout.
 
pdelta said:
I've noticed that finishing logs seems to be major problem. I've never done one myself. I usually just post my results. I'm not criticizing, just wondering why you never finished your logs?

I have three bottles of LGD 4033. I haven't tried them. I'm currenly using Osterine as a standalone. If I don't see any results by week 3-4, I may drop the Ostarine and go with LGD 4033 for a couple of weeks. It seems to work fast for most.
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usually just a lack of interest from other people. I stopped posting a couple times when no one followed it.
 
June 1

Dosed the normal AM time. This morning I took a good look in the mirror to evaluate any changes. I'm am certain I've dropped ~1% BF and I'm up 2.5lbs on the scale, and this is on a generous calorie surplus(~500-600)! I look bigger, and my muscles appear harder. I see the biggest improvements in the size of my lats and shoulders, and my upper chest is really coming in nicely! I hit my Chest/Bis/Tris pretty damn hard today, it's my favorite routine and it really shows in the gym. No notable strength increases, just maintained or upped reps on a few lifts. It seems my strength gains come at a decent pace, normally a 10lb increase on each compound lift per week so far, but we'll see how long that remains constant. Pumps and vascularity seem to get better and better every session! Still no noticeable sides!! Gyno is my biggest concern, I had a bit of it going through puberty and it hurt like hell, but I haven't noticed any signs. My hunger is completely controllable, no hunger pains like others have noticed, but I can eat a ton of food while on cycle. The more I browse these forums the more I want to dive deeper into the world of AAS ha (Good and bad thing). The amount of knowledge some of these guys have here astonishes me!


Gonna keep this log going! It's quite a nice motivator, and helps me track my own progress. It'll probably be pretty lengthy in the end though. Stay Tuned!
 
Cipp21 said:
June 1

Dosed the normal AM time. This morning I took a good look in the mirror to evaluate any changes. I'm am certain I've dropped ~1% BF and I'm up 2.5lbs on the scale, and this is on a generous calorie surplus(~500-600)! I look bigger, and my muscles appear harder. I see the biggest improvements in the size of my lats and shoulders, and my upper chest is really coming in nicely! I hit my Chest/Bis/Tris pretty damn hard today, it's my favorite routine and it really shows in the gym. No notable strength increases, just maintained or upped reps on a few lifts. It seems my strength gains come at a decent pace, normally a 10lb increase on each compound lift per week so far, but we'll see how long that remains constant. Pumps and vascularity seem to get better and better every session! Still no noticeable sides!! Gyno is my biggest concern, I had a bit of it going through puberty and it hurt like hell, but I haven't noticed any signs. My hunger is completely controllable, no hunger pains like others have noticed, but I can eat a ton of food while on cycle. The more I browse these forums the more I want to dive deeper into the world of AAS ha (Good and bad thing). The amount of knowledge some of these guys have here astonishes me!


Gonna keep this log going! It's quite a nice motivator, and helps me track my own progress. It'll probably be pretty lengthy in the end though. Stay Tuned!
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Cool man keep it up! I'm about to start my run of lgd next week! I hear you on AAS, I've run test in the past but the fiance doesn't like it so I'm sticking to sarms from here on out.
 
shotgunsays said:
Cool man keep it up! I'm about to start my run of lgd next week! I hear you on AAS, I've run test in the past but the fiance doesn't like it so I'm sticking to sarms from here on out.
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Yea I'm already mapping out a possible cycle for winter. Torn between running Venom Test Transderm or Dieselbolan 2. You gonna log your run or just post up a review when you're done?
 
June 2

Legs and Abs day. Today's leg day was absolutely epic! All of my lifts increased a MINIMUM of 10lbs, compounds increased about 20lbs! I had zero DOMS all day after last nights lifting, and still have no sides. Seeing the changes my body has made in these past two weeks are remarkable. Since my first day ever lifting I've watched my body gain muscle and cut fat, and you can normally see the small changes in muscle and fat. On LGD it's more of a body transformation, it's hard for me to really gauge what's happening. I look amazing compared to when I started the cycle and I'm loving it. Can't imagine what 8 weeks will do! Today was also my last day at 2mg, upping it to 3mg ED starting tomorrow.
 
pdelta said:
At 8 weeks you're going to be shut down so hard you will loose all you gains.
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Of the handful of logs I've read the shutdown wasn't much of anything. There's another thread where someone just posted bloods that show nothing but a small bit of supression...
 
pdelta said:
At 8 weeks you're going to be shut down so hard you will loose all you gains.
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Who the hell is this guy? Have u tried these sarms yourself or are you just regurgitating information you read on forums.

Anyway OP, great log, keep it up!
 
pdelta said:
At 8 weeks you're going to be shut down so hard you will loose all you gains.
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Even if he was shutdown, which i dont imagine it will be too hard, why would he not be able to do a proper pct to keep them? And to answer your question OP, I'm not going to post a log but I will probably do a review.
 
round2 said:
looks like he be trollinnnnnnnnnnnn
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Kinda figured that

shotgunsays said:
Even if he was shutdown, which i dont imagine it will be too hard, why would he not be able to do a proper pct to keep them? And to answer your question OP, I'm not going to post a log but I will probably do a review.
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You'll thoroughly enjoy it. Not sure how it compares to test tho, need to take that plunge soon :D
 
June 3

Not even the LGD could prevent the living hell of leg DOMs today. I admit it was much more mild than I'm used to but I was unhappy I had to experience this ha. First day at 3mg, still no sides. Back/Shoulders/Traps today, PRd in everything! Vascularity is getting incredible, and pumps are still really nice. Looking better every day in the mirror, I'm up ~4-5lbs and I've lost BF. I am still incredibly motivated, it's like nothing else matters in the day except lifting. The past three days have been the hardest I've lifted for a long time, I am starting to get a little bit of that on cycle aggression I think. Well deserved day off of lifting tomorrow.

I've read a few more reports on LGD, seems doses as high as 22mg were tolerable in the test subjects! As of now I plan on cycling it again next late winter/ early spring and I plan on upping the doses and really pushing this SARM depending on how this cycle turns out.
 
Cipp21 said:
June 3

Not even the LGD could prevent the living hell of leg DOMs today. I admit it was much more mild than I'm used to but I was unhappy I had to experience this ha. First day at 3mg, still no sides. Back/Shoulders/Traps today, PRd in everything! Vascularity is getting incredible, and pumps are still really nice. Looking better every day in the mirror, I'm up ~4-5lbs and I've lost BF. I am still incredibly motivated, it's like nothing else matters in the day except lifting. The past three days have been the hardest I've lifted for a long time, I am starting to get a little bit of that on cycle aggression I think. Well deserved day off of lifting tomorrow.

I've read a few more reports on LGD, seems doses as high as 22mg were tolerable in the test subjects! As of now I plan on cycling it again next late winter/ early spring and I plan on upping the doses and really pushing this SARM depending on how this cycle turns out.
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Looking good man, keep it up and keep logging through pct also. I'm really interested to see how the remainder of your on cycle goes, great progress so far. Keep up the intensity and kill it all the way through!!!!!

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Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo (Substitution: Test Infusion/Forged PCT)
Forma Stanzol
DAA Power Chews

SERM hasn't been necessary for many. You could run Ostarine if you wanted too in PCT as well.

That is what is recommended. Personally I haven't made it into PCT yet but you can check mine out on the first page of this log. Suppression doesn't seem to be bad at all from the logs I've read. letsgosarms posted bloods in one of his threads, and his suppression was minimal and he managed that with a weak PCT, only a couple test boosters. As of now I recommend the outline above just to make sure you have everything covered.
 
June 4

Day off today. Still absolutely no sides to report! No DOMS from last nights lifting either. I'm starting to see LGD mentioned in some other threads now too! Still sleeping like a baby, still eating a giant load of food. I'll probably take a look at my blood pressure again tomorrow to see if anything has changed, I expect nothing has though. Ready to hit the gym hard tomorrow.

Stay tuned!
 
Hey Cipp21,
Just have a question about the dosing. Just received lgd-4033 and was wondering if the 10 on the syringe is equal to 1mg. Let me know. Enjoying your log by the way, making lgd sound promising.
 
Cipp21 said:
Their test was suppressed. This happens with every AAS, PH, and SARM (to a degree). This is why we do a PCT...
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Exactly. Anyway I'm following with great interest. I have three bottles of LGD 4033. I haven't touched them yet. Waiting to see more logs.
 
jpoleto17 said:
Hey Cipp21,
Just have a question about the dosing. Just received lgd-4033 and was wondering if the 10 on the syringe is equal to 1mg. Let me know. Enjoying your log by the way, making lgd sound promising.
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its 10 mg per ml so the 10 on the syringe = 10 mg
 
round2 said:
.1 =1mg thats -point1 =1mg
.3 or point 3 = 3mg
10 = 10mg
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Ok... if it has "0.1", "0.2" etc. then it would end with a "1" right? not 10. So if the syringe has a "10" on it, it's probably marked like a slin pin by iu and so 10iu = 1mg. Maybe I'm wrong, but the guy asked if 10=1mg, and that math ain't that hard so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway awesome log! Please keep it up, I'm really interested in this one.
 
June 5

Chest/Bis/Tris day, PRd in everything but flat DB bench (slowest progressing lift)! Felt great throughout the workout. Chest pump was INCREDIBLE and my biceps pumped up enough that I was almost certain my stretch marks were going to double in size. Stepped on the scale this morning, weighed in at 185, 7lbs more than when I started. I am starting to look bigger and fuller now, not sure if I gained back that extra 1% bodyfat or I'm starting to put on some water bloat from the higher dosage. No sides to report! Libido is still great, nuts are hanging low and proud, and my slight acne has gotten better (weird but true). Still lovin life while on, I'm even noticing a bigger boost in energy/endurance at this 3mg dose
 
Cipp21 said:
I just checked mine for you. Three times 140/70, 143/71, 136/70 a bit higher than usual. Normally being on cycle increases your RBC count, therefore raising your blood pressure. Excess water retention will raise it as well. 170/100 is really high, have you been consistently checking it? Any stress or other strenuous activity before your readings? It fluctuates quite a bit throughout the day, maybe try again in a couple of hours, might've been a bad reading
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The high reading persisted over several days. I was measuring twice daily. After ceasing the LGD, it remained fairly high for about 3 days, but is now back down to 130/75 ,which is my regular reading.

I did not measure my BP immediately before beginning the cycle, which was a mistake.. so i can't say for sure if it was caused by the lgd.

I'm going to begin another cycle in a week or two, this time taking consistent readings both before and during the cycle to see for certain if the lgd is causing it to spike.
 
FauxShow said:
The high reading persisted over several days. I was measuring twice daily. After ceasing the LGD, it remained fairly high for about 3 days, but is now back down to 130/75 ,which is my regular reading.

I did not measure my BP immediately before beginning the cycle, which was a mistake.. so i can't say for sure if it was caused by the lgd.

I'm going to begin another cycle in a week or two, this time taking consistent readings both before and during the cycle to see for certain if the lgd is causing it to spike.
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Interesting, how we're you dosing the LGD?


pdelta said:
With such a rapid weight gain you may be holding water. How is you definition?
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I'm pretty sure there's water retention at this point. Definition isn't as great as it was in previous weeks. Saw a 3-4lb jump on the scale since I started 3mg
 
June 6

Legs/Abs today. It was supposed to be an HIIT/Abs day but I really felt like putting up some big weight. PRd everything! Isolation lifts went up about 10lbs each, Squat went up 20lbs, and Deadlift went up 25lbs! Legs feel absolutely shattered at this point. Still no sides, and I always have a great mood. I am noticing I have a shorter temper, I just get annoyed by things a bit easier, but my aggression is also skyrocketing in the gym (good thing). I am also starting to see a bit of water retention at this dose, but nothing too major. Sleep is always great, and its actually easier for me to get up in the morning on this cycle than when I'm off cycle. Also noticing some sick vascularity in my dong :qt:!

On another note, I just bought all the supplies for my winter cycle. I'm going to get Diesel on some Dieselbolan 2.0!
 
jar66 said:
Speaking of dongs, how are ur boys? U feel like ur shutdown at all? Any lethargy or drop in libido?
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The family jewels are still hanging plump, low, and proud. No drop in libido at all. I still feel amazing, even moreso in the gym. I haven't felt any kind of lethargy throughout the cycle, I'm even more motivated at work (most of the time)!
 
June 7 & 8

Yesterday I hit Back/Shoulders hard. I upped the reps in just about everything, added another 5lbs to Bent over BB row and 10lbs to my seated Arnold presses, Lateral Raises, and Shrugs. Weight dropped back to 183lbs, I figure I dropped some of the water weight I initially gained when switching to 3mg. Today was my off day, and I spent it at Krav class for 3 hours doing my review for my Orange Belt Test. For some reason I came home and looked bloated as all hell, almost like I had a pot belly, and now I look fine again. I have no explanation as to why. Checked my blood pressure today as well, all three readings stayed consistent at 126/68 meaning I'm perfectly healthy! Still not a single side, no shutdown feeling, no loss of libido, no hairloss, no testicular atrophy, and no gyno symptoms. No kind of on cycle support either, but I will still probably add that forma on cycle as of Monday to keep my gains a bit drier/leaner. I am noticing a bit of fat gain, but nothing major. I haven't had DOMs at all either, It really shocked me that I wasn't crippled after Thursday's legs day. Well, Chest/Bis/Tris tomorrow, can't wait!
 
June 9

Chest/Bis/Tris today, and the strength gains are still going strong! Lifts went up in reps, and increases are as follows:
Incline DB bench: +10lbs
Decline Hammer Press: +10lbs
Incline DB Curls: +10lbs
Preacher Curl: +5lbs
Close Grip BP: +10lbs
Skullcrushers: +5lbs

As you can see I felt amazing in the gym today. My arms had a ridiculous pump as well. Vascularity is keeping pretty steady now, I have nice prominent veins popping out of my biceps and forearms. After a quick review in the mirror today I've noticed that since the beginning of this cycle my Biceps, Triceps, Traps, and Lats have all gained a noticeable amount of size. My chest is lacking a bit, seems to be my strongest but slowest progressing muscle group, although my upper chest is gaining size quicker now. Still no sides, always feeling great :). I have noticed that my joints pop a lot more now. I rolled out of bed this morning and when I stood up it sounded like someone ran over a pile of bubble wrap, seems to be doing it more and more each week. I have a severe case of "bigorexia" and for the first time in a long time I look in the mirror and feel quite pleased with the way I've been looking. This is definitely a SARM worth looking into.
 
On another note...Anyone ever have any experience with SARMS sublingually? I just got a bit curious today when my gym buddy asked if they could be absorbed sublingually as well. He just started taking S-4, I don't know why he would try that shit sublingually, I tasted a bit of it and though I was going to yack. We also found out it turns white if you mix it into a shot glass of water...
 
I've taken Ostarine twice. Both times I've used it sublingually. I think you get better absorbtion. I hold it under my tongue as long as I can. There are no taste buds on the underside of the tongue so it helps a little in that regard. Still tastes like crap when you finally swallow it though. The first time I used Ostarine the directions said to use it sublingually.

How does LGD taste compared to Ostarine?
 
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