Lets debate this... Just How Much does it Take to Knock somebody out? ? ?

[Big Rick Rock]

what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?

The chin.

No need for hay makers, a sharp, short left hook is your best friend.

-Less power needed.
-Less posibility of serious injury to the target.
-Tried and proven.
-If it doesn not produce a knock out it will stunt the target.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Nerve Attacks not Flames, ????

You guys attack my nerves when you start bickering.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

I hate to say this, but I've seen George Dillman put a dude out by pressure point. Now, it takes a second to find the point- but, I have a hard time believing a pressure point striker would have the required time to find the point during a real fight.
I do believe it has a lot to do with placement and the person.

 

[Bam]

I hate to say this, but I've seen George Dillman put a dude out by pressure point. Now, it takes a second to find the point- but, I have a hard time believing a pressure point striker would have the required time to find the point during a real fight.
I do believe it has a lot to do with placement and the person.

You are right about using this in a real fight. I would say that to do this at a moments notice would take an amount of skill only attained over many many years of training.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

I went to a Dillman seminar several years ago and witnessed one of his "knockouts". It was totally bogus.

While I am not saying that it can not be achieved through his method, I find it highly unlikely. In saying that, I had a friend of mine who challenged the legitamacy of his techniques, so Dillman put it on him!! He hit him hard, TWICE, once in the arm and then on the jaw (in sequence). My friends jaw was extremely sore but he was still standing. Then Dillman goes into talking about how some people are highly resistant to his blah, blah, blah.

He convienently knocks out his students only at the seminars I have seen. I even saw a guy fall too early from one of his punches when they mistimed it. It was hilarious. Dillman is a fraud for the most part in my opinion.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

I went to a Dillman seminar several years ago and witnessed one of his "knockouts". It was totally bogus.

While I am not saying that it can not be achieved through his method, I find it highly unlikely. In saying that, I had a friend of mine who challenged the legitamacy of his techniques, so Dillman put it on him!! He hit him hard, TWICE, once in the arm and then on the jaw (in sequence). My friends jaw was extremely sore but he was still standing. Then Dillman goes into talking about how some people are highly resistant to his blah, blah, blah.

He convienently knocks out his students only at the seminars I have seen. I even saw a guy fall too early from one of his punches when they mistimed it. It was hilarious. Dillman is a fraud for the most part in my opinion.

Well, there you go then- even if the "touch knock outs" were totally legit, the time to set it up is too much to ask for. It's too risky to find out who is highly resistant to this. IMO

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Truthfully most knockouts are nerve attacks as loss of consciousness is due to disruption of nervous system function. Some people for whatever reason can absorb much greater shock to the exterior before it translates to a knockout. The severe beatings taken by Mike Tyson and George Chuvalo come to mind. We're talking repeated heavy hits from heavyweight boxers flush, yet didn't fall. But then you look at Roy Jones, not to say he is glass jawed, but a single hit on the chin in the second round from light heavyweight Antonio Tarver laid him out.

In regards to Dillman, there is a film clip on bullshido.com that exposes that art. One of his former students tries to KO a news woman with a pressure point strike and she yells something like, "That hurt, you hit my ear.", then no knockout. The only people he could drop with his pressure point strikes are his own students.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Truthfully most knockouts are nerve attacks as loss of consciousness is due to disruption of nervous system function. Some people for whatever reason can absorb much greater shock to the exterior before it translates to a knockout. The severe beatings taken by Mike Tyson and George Chuvalo come to mind. We're talking repeated heavy hits from heavyweight boxers flush, yet didn't fall. But then you look at Roy Jones, not to say he is glass jawed, but a single hit on the chin in the second round from light heavyweight Antonio Tarver laid him out.

In regards to Dillman, there is a film clip on bullshido.com that exposes that art. One of his former students tries to KO a news woman with a pressure point strike and she yells something like, "That hurt, you hit my ear.", then no knockout. The only people he could drop with his pressure point strikes are his own students.

I'll never get tired of saying this.... A sharp, stiff knuckle sandwich to the chin is your best friend… You don’t need a lot of power, even though lading a power shot always feels good. Nothing feels better than feeling a guy’s face right thru your gloves, a fucking left hook that you throw with your whole body, you are on your toes, your hip whips across, your upper body follows, your shoulder crosses the line of his chin a couple of inches before your fist makes contact... WAAAM!

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

chin, throat, solar plexus, philtrum punches can be devastating without BIG POWER.

My opinion is a combination of power and accuracy is most effective for knockout blows.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

http://www.wright.edu/studentorgs/karate/Basics/punches.html