Let me explain myself a bit more - I know I don't always do it the best, but I try - Abe Lincoln example

[crazyjoe]

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races -- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

-Abraham Lincoln (September 18, 1858)
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So, everyone thinks Abraham Lincoln is great right? Wanted to free the slaves? Is on every fucking 5 dollar bill.

Well had he been alive today and said that, he would be a straight up RACIST. No judge and jury, he's a racist, period.

Now you can't just history by today's standards, but here is why I bring this up as an example.


Imagine that after Abe Lincoln said that, there was this guy, PreLEstat lets say. And he sat around coffee houses talking about how black and white people are REALLY EQUAL and should be afforded the SAME RIGHTS under the law.

Well the ignormant population, who we will call EF, would all collectively DENOUNCE PreLestat saying he was a moron, and of course blacks are inferior and they would go on the list out all of the reasons why. Unfornately PreLestat would die long before someone could tell him he was right.
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That is how I feel when I talk about religion. Another areas where the ignorant masses have been completely fucking DUPED against all reason, logic, and evidence.

That is how I feel when I talk about many topics on here, like I am somehow just a bit before my time. For example, circumcision. I think its barbaric and should be banned (although I myself and circumcised I can see why it is useless and perverse).

When you think I am a complete moron who's views are so far out there no one could ever possibly agree, remember what Abe said about the black people less than 150 years ago, and keep in mind he was widely respected and considered one of the black man's biggest advocates.

K for voicing what you believe.

 

[Lestat]

Re: Let me explain myself a bit more - I know I don't always do it the best, but I tr

so what are you saying some day the hole world will see it your way.lol

no, not exactly, I wish.

I think that what you think and what I think about many topics will be completely skoffed at in future generations, maybe 100 years, maybe 1000. People will think, wow those guys were so far off track.

I just try to at least stay on track within the context and confines of what we know today. To stay constantly on the bleeding edge so that my personal beliefs and life philosophies are are true and correct as they could be given the contextual knowledge that I know today.

For example, my dad is very conservative, he thinks that if a bunch of black people move to your neighborhood, the crime rate will go up!

I think that is utterly RIDICULOUS. If a bunch of POOR people move to your neighborhood, the crime rate will go up, doesn't matter if they are white, black, brown, yellow...

no matter how hard I try to explain it logically to my dad, he'll never get it. There is nothing about your skin color that makes you more prone to crime, NOTHING! There is a strong correlation between factors like household income, education level, parent's education level, parent's criminal history. But there is nothing about someone's ethnic makeup that makes them more or less prone to crime.

Unfortunately my father, a wise man in many ways, either refused to believe this, or simply does not want to.

 

[Lestat]

K for voicing what you believe.

much appreciated bro.

 

[jh1]

I don't really have beef with anyone on this site but one person b/c I think he is a moron and gives shitty advice to anyone that asks a question.

 

[Lestat]

People, we are in the presence of a visionary. All bow down!

lol!!!

 

[gotmilk]

I only wished people had a similar reaction toward child molestors.

I've never seen one person condone child molesting or even suggest molesters deserve any form of understanding. Ever. Just about everyone I know thinks child molesters are pretty much the scum of the earth....

I played high school hockey against a kid who was abused for years by his coach.....this coach was busted at B.C. High and sent to Maine as "punishment"...where he continued for 12 more years before someone rattled his cage.

 

[KillahBee]

Sorry bro, in our back-and-forths you have never shown the ability to be on the "cutting edge" of thought. Perhaps you are just not like that when it comes to social interaction discussion topics, but you are with other topics (I don't know, I've never read your politics or whatever threads). But you have jumped on me as quick as possible for having a different view than the typical male masses with absolutely no signs of having the desire to hear out differing, quite controversial views of the subject at hand.

But like I said, maybe that's exclusive to discussions of social interactions

 

[heatherrae]

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races -- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

-Abraham Lincoln (September 18, 1858)
____


So, everyone thinks Abraham Lincoln is great right? Wanted to free the slaves? Is on every fucking 5 dollar bill.

Well had he been alive today and said that, he would be a straight up RACIST. No judge and jury, he's a racist, period.

Now you can't just history by today's standards, but here is why I bring this up as an example.


Imagine that after Abe Lincoln said that, there was this guy, PreLEstat lets say. And he sat around coffee houses talking about how black and white people are REALLY EQUAL and should be afforded the SAME RIGHTS under the law.

Well the ignormant population, who we will call EF, would all collectively DENOUNCE PreLestat saying he was a moron, and of course blacks are inferior and they would go on the list out all of the reasons why. Unfornately PreLestat would die long before someone could tell him he was right.
'
That is how I feel when I talk about religion. Another areas where the ignorant masses have been completely fucking DUPED against all reason, logic, and evidence.

That is how I feel when I talk about many topics on here, like I am somehow just a bit before my time. For example, circumcision. I think its barbaric and should be banned (although I myself and circumcised I can see why it is useless and perverse).

When you think I am a complete moron who's views are so far out there no one could ever possibly agree, remember what Abe said about the black people less than 150 years ago, and keep in mind he was widely respected and considered one of the black man's biggest advocates.

LOL...Well, don't you sound a little arrogant here...lol.

You are just a misunderstood genius visionary in a sea of us idiots.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Let me explain myself a bit more - I know I don't always do it the best, but I tr

Sorry bro, in our back-and-forths you have never shown the ability to be on the "cutting edge" of thought. Perhaps you are just not like that when it comes to social interaction discussion topics, but you are with other topics (I don't know, I've never read your politics or whatever threads). But you have jumped on me as quick as possible for having a different view than the typical male masses with absolutely no signs of having the desire to hear out differing, quite controversial views of the subject at hand.

But like I said, maybe that's exclusive to discussions of social interactions

dont talk like this its not becoming of you bro...

 

[KillahBee]

Re: Let me explain myself a bit more - I know I don't always do it the best, but I tr

dont talk like this its not becoming of you bro...

I wasn't tryin to be a punk if that's how it came off.

I'll becoming on you if you talk shite to me again, N Dogg