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Leg day and vomiting :-((

On a heavy leg day I would not even consider cardio...I never eat less than 3 hours before a leg day...I get sick to my stomach almost every time and I have gotten sick a few times...W6's leg workout brings you close to puking every time....I think cardio in the AM on an empty stomach is best personally and then weight training in the evening...if you cant do that then train first and do your cardio...it just depends on how you can get it all in...With my crazy schedule i do it whenever i can get it in.
 
spatterson said:
I'm humored. I remember being a newbie around here, and telling everyone that I trained in the wee morning hours and did cardio AFTER weights...I was told by no fewer than ten people to ditch my trainer so I could do cardio on an empty stomach and train weights later. What comes around goes around, I guess. Different week, different opnion.

this is what i do (cardio am weights pm) when cutting....

but some of us don't have 2-3 hours to spend in the gym in the mornings :)
 
spatterson said:


Wow, really? I tend to think that most of his comments are dead-on. :confused:


yeah, like when he told the recovering anorexic girl that she's eating too many calories? :rolleyes:

this goes way back, but to him keto is the only diet that possibly exists and carbs are satan reincarnate... although he has relaxed up a bit on flaming everyone's post with stuff like "don't eat carbs" or "Read this book"

hehe
 
"I'm humored. I remember being a newbie around here, and telling everyone that I trained in the wee morning hours and did cardio AFTER weights...I was told by no fewer than ten people to ditch my trainer so I could do cardio on an empty stomach and train weights later. What comes around goes around, I guess. Different week, different opnion."

SPAT,

Sure cardio on an empty stomach is the best for mobilizing fat stores, and yes if you eat carbs you'll burn carbs during cardio.

The issue here with ESTE is timing. If you're bent on doing cardio first then follow it with a light workout. But never do cardio first on an empty stomach and think you'll be able to lift any bodypart heavy, esp. legs.

I've never advised anyone to do cardio then train legs heavy because it doesn't work.

If ESTE can only train in the am and can't split the workout, then lift first, as I said the insulin response to any carbs will be shut down by the time you get to the cardio. Now, if you can do cardio in the am (empty stomach) then lift at night following it up with a mixed carb/protein meal so you don't pass out in the morning doing cardio, then that's great.

Even going back at lunch to lift with early am cardio would work, but wouldn't be my first choice.

Bottom line, if you only have the am, then lift first, cardio after, otherwise cardio in the am. But, avoid cardio the day before and day of heavy legs if you are trying to maximize the effects of mechanical loading.

The other option is 30 min cardio am (fasting), lift pm then follow with another 30 min of cardio if time is limited in the am.

The key is either cardio in a fasting state or after heavy exercise when the fat burning process has been turned on because of high circulating levels of EPI and insulin has been shut down by direct sympathetic input (Nor-EPI) to the pancreas.

W6
 
esteveze said:
Dimond! why cardio can not be done on leg day???
Also I do my cardio always before weight trainning.
Does it make a fiference and why?
leg training takes too much energy and anything added to it is overtraining-if you do cardio 1st, you won't have energy to lift
 
W6...

just a quickie...:D
if you do your weight training in the morning, and i'm NOT a morning person like spatts...(i'd never get up early enough to eat a meal), is that banana really enough for the workout?

thx..:)
 
Memory is failing a little.

It was a banana, coffee, 2-aspirin and 50 g of pure maltodextrin in water (I used to buy 50 lbs bags of the stuff from the mfg). I'd be in the gym in about 30 - 45 mins.

Right after I'd have another 50 g of maltodextrin + 10 g of BCAAs. Then breakfast about an hour later (8a).

Now its 2 servings of Spec-K + 1 serving cheerios, 8 oz orange juice, 8 oz yogurt with 35 grams whey protein mixed in. I lift 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 hrs later after I'm done with am clients. On Sun. same breakfast at 7a the heavy legs at 10a.

I come home and have another protein drink, 1-slice toast with low-fat PB.

Lunch 2 hrs later.

W6
 
I wanna know more about W6 also... What IS your story? Can you give us your stats? I dont think I've ever heard much about you, only about the women you've trained. :)

--IQ
 
I have a stupid question. Maybe you've mentioned it, but I was reading this thread so fast I might have missed it. Why do you get sick from doing legs? Just wondering.
 
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