Just how slow does Micellar digest?

[javaguru]

As far as I'm concerned milk isolate is the best overall protein for "general use." I don't use MRP's but use a shake and take fish oil capsules for a protein and fat meal or use a piece of fruit or otameal/oat bran hot cereal. The glutamine peptides are up to you, I never noticed a difference in recovery but I consume around 300-330g of protein per day, 162g from my milk isolate which gives me over 15g of glutamine right there.

I'm currently 235 lb and high single digit BF at a height of 5'10".

 

[Smokescreen]

high single digit? Come on!!!! What are you? BTW...I forgot to mention something. This whole thing about milk isolates and the other proteins that I told you I take. Are these ok for cutting cycles? What about when it is time to bulk up? What difference should be done? Avoid milk isolate and take something else? Or add to that? What?

 

[javaguru]

high single digits is about as accurate as I can get, 8%-9% but I would probably test lower in a hydro tank because I'm retaining some water right now, starting to "bulk".

No need to change anything as far as protein sources are concerned.

 

[Smokescreen]

So for cutting...use the proteins we discussed. And for bulking still use the same proteins? Only of course up the carbs, good fats, and calories....right? On Iso-Chill whey, know anything about it? Good protein there? I'm lactose intolerant. Will this protein be a bad idea for me to take? Is Iso-Chill Whey a fast acting whey like CFM?

 

[javaguru]

Yep, the only difference between bulking and cutting is the carbs for me, my fat stays constant at around 60g per day. I'm mildly lacose intolerant and iso chill is low lactose. It's processed using a different method to become an isolate than other whey proteins. Other whey proteins uyse ion exchange and membrane filtration technology. From what I gather the sub fraction content varies from batch to batch. However, I take my milk isolate for the sub fraction and my whey for quick absorption.

 

[Smokescreen]

CFM whey is of course the better whey. But would you say that iso-chill is still good? Or should it be left alone?

 

[javaguru]

If you use whey because of the subfractions than isochill may not be for you. Since I use it for the fast absorbing aminos it's inconsequential.

 

[Smokescreen]

Why? Isochill is crap? I was thinking about using Isochill only on the weekends. On the weekends I usually have proteins with my carbs but not very high. Maybe like 20-30 grams the most per meal. And so I was planning on using the Isochill to cover for the remaining 25 that I would need. I llike to take 50grams of protein per meal.

 

[ashley2212]

This is a great post guys... a very interesting read...

 

[gjohnson5]

How slow of a digesting protein is this? Is it like eating meat?

A bottle of evopro that I had said 5-6 hours