Is this realistic??

[wannabeBB]

I need to ask this so I'm not trying to strive for something unattainable. I heard on another board that most of the girls you see in fitness magazines are on AS. And something like that is unattainable. Okay, I knew this is probably true for BB's but fitness? They arent that big.
My goal is to one day be in a comp. (like maybe lightweight or whatever my body is capable of).
I really admire this one BB and use her pics as my inspiration. My question is, Is it possible to look like this naturally?http://www.heathersweb.com/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi?func=show&file=200384&Category=100005&Page=1


This is the size I want and I want to know if it's possible so I dont try to acheive something unattainable or too far-fetched.

 

[NubianBeauty]

jrnat_heather.jpg

FYI this is what she looks like now....

 

[wannabeBB]

I can't click on the pic to make it bigger (not a paying member) but I have seen some of her current pics on her website.

 

[NubianBeauty]

IMO, you can acheive a VERY muscular physique without the use of steriods depending on your Genetics of course. I have seen pics of MS and I will tell you that if SHE can do it without eating ANY meat.. those of us that have that in our arsenal have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING EXCUSE!! I'm just impatient though!!

 

[vixenbabe]

Sometimes it's not the destination BUT the journey....

Since you have a goal, reach that goal and be happy with what you achieved. Small goals achieved tend to lead you to more and more and more.....Either way, it's a win, win situation!

 

[BigEasy]

Your personal potential depends on quite a few factors, but as Vixen pointed out, it is the journey that matters more that the destination. You will never know what your natural genetics are capable of until you get started and try. Of course, if you never start you will never get there. Conversely, the sooner you get started the quicker you will arrive.

I don’t wish to hijack your thread, but would love for MS to comment sometimes on the potential for one to naturally coerce our existing genetic makeup to be more anabolic. This is quite a chicken and egg conundrum amongst some people I work around. It gets pretty involved and I am not sure I can accurately and clearly relay their debate.

One side argues that our genetic makeup is capable of modifying itself somewhat with nothing more than diet, nutrition, exercise, and rest. They believe that we have the inherent ability to essentially evolve ourselves without supra physical means like drugs or radical damage, and that these changes can be passed on to our children. In other words, if we are lazy slobs and have children, those are the basic genes we pass along. On the flip side, if we become physically fit before bearing offspring, we pass along that predisposition.

The people on the other side say our genetics are hard fixed and cannot be changed except through external modification. They think that any upregulation or alteration of genetic expression was already predestined and that it is not the result of any induced genetic alteration. Basic metabolism is a mathematical crapshoot determined at gestation according to them.

Even this crowd seems split with some thinking alteration is possible by external means like AS and external stresses and these changes will be passed on….

Anyway, I find this fascinating. And yeah, I’m a geek.

 

[NubianBeauty]

Great post BE, I'm somewhat of a geek too.

 

[VeggieLifterChick]

BigE,
Were you saying that some people really think that your genetics (predispositions and such) can be altered by healthy behavior such that you would pass along your fitness to offspring? That sounds like the old famous fallacy in which a scientist theorized that giraffes have long necks because they kept reaching for leaves and stretching them, then passed on their newly stretched necks to offspring. That's not the way evolution works, nor is it the way gene mutations occur. It seems pretty obvious that everyone has a set genetic potential. Training hard and eating clean enables a person to reach it, but does not in any way change it. When you put anabolics (drugs) into the equation, you aren't talking about altering one's genetics or one's genetic potential, either. You're talking about increasing hormones that we already have (GH or test,for instance) to levels we do not naturally maintain. If anabolics did alter genetic potential, then people who had taken them but were not currently using would, with their newly-altered genetic state, be able to make gains consistent with anabolic use when they weren't using.


Sorry for such a long rant. Anyways, WannaB, I really don't think that the woman in that pic is natural. Like everyone else said, though, your personal natural potential may be freakishly similar. And, like everyone else said, the only way to find out is to give yourself the tools to realize that potential - eat clean, lift hard.

 

[MS]

I would say that to achieve the look you're after you would first and foremost HAVE to have that women's general build to begin with. The length of her long bones, muscle insertions, and genetics for stuff such as calf development have got to be there first. Otherwise, even WITH AAS, you will have a completely different look. Also, if that women attained that physique without the use of AAS, she would be a very rare genetic freak IMHO. So it's possible, YES. Likely, NO.

Changing our genetic potential through lifestyle factors is not really possible. But 'potential' is the key word here, and realizing your potential to it's fullest is different from changing it. If you've never had the chance to read Weston Price's in depth treatise on this kind of topic and would like to, just shoot me an email (copyright issues prevent me from posting the link on this board). He observed severe physical changes which appeared for all the world to be 'genetic' (including changes in dental arch, height, bone structure, muscularity, susceptibility to modern diseases, personality etc...) between native generations of primitive peoples and their offspring who adopted wetsern diets and lifestyles. After you read this book, you will be even more amazed at how stupid the so-called health experts have been over the last 60-70 years since the keys to good physical development and long term health have been known for AT LEAST this long.

 

[wannabeBB]

Can you tell by looking at someone if they have good genetics for bodybuilding or not?
A trainer at the gym told me I am too tall for bodybuilding and could never do it. That's why I choose this woman for inspiration. I am 5'7 1/2 and I think she's about the same.
This personal trainer told me that since I'm tall, my muscles are longer and wont bulk up very easily. That was discouraging.
I am by no means skinny though. And I don't think I'm a hard gainer. I have no idea what my potential is since I was never much atheletic before. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.