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Well damn, that trainer sure has some nerves!! I am 5'8" and I think ann is 5'9", have you seen her pics?
Is this realistic??
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I would hardly call 5'7" 1/2 tall!!!! That's an absurd thing for your trainer to say. Anyway, as I said before, it's not so much how tall you are as how you're put together. The woman you want to look like appears to be pretty endomorphic to my eye. Maybe she's not 'short' but she's definitely stocky compared to, say, the fitness look. So are you more of an endomorph or ectomorph (or somewhere in between??). Anyway like you said, you'll just have to give it your best shot and see what the final product looks like. That's a big part of the fun of the journey....not knowing what you're gonna get in the end.
wannabeBB said:
This type of developement is on the absolute edge of natural training possibilities but as MS said she would have to be a very rare genetic freak.
So if she was a one in a million genetic freak, a pure mesomorph with a high natural test level, and trained very smartly with heavy weights, low volume and with plenty of days out of the gym per week AND also had everything else in perfect order(likely not having a job) then it is possible but it would take at LEAST 10 years of very serious training and maybe more.
So if she started serious training at 20 then by 30 she might look like that.
Problem is that in order to get to that % body fat naturally a certain amount of muscle mass would need to be sacrificed.
I have seen some pretty large natural women over the years but none large and very lean...its almost an impossibilty without steroids.
RG
Wannabe -
Chances are this woman is not natural, as everyone has said. And chances are she HAS used quite a bit of AS to get this way. And her genetics are probably really, really awesome.
BUT, that does not mean you have to use AS to look amazing. And that does not mean you have to have perfect genetics to look amazing. You just gotta bust your butt a little harder when it comes to training and diet!
Don't let any of this deter you - I'd love to wake up tomorrow and be able to compete. But it ain't gonna happen. Chances are, it will never happen. Frustrating and annoying, yes. But that doesn' t mean I shouldn't work as hard as I can at the gym, stay focused and determined and set my sights high.
Keep trying as hard as you can - don't let go of the goal of competing one day. Just keep busting your butt to look the best you can and feel good about yourself! It's good to have a 'role model' but you are an individual - you'll never look like her or anyone else. You are put together different!
Chances are this woman is not natural, as everyone has said. And chances are she HAS used quite a bit of AS to get this way. And her genetics are probably really, really awesome.
BUT, that does not mean you have to use AS to look amazing. And that does not mean you have to have perfect genetics to look amazing. You just gotta bust your butt a little harder when it comes to training and diet!
Don't let any of this deter you - I'd love to wake up tomorrow and be able to compete. But it ain't gonna happen. Chances are, it will never happen. Frustrating and annoying, yes. But that doesn' t mean I shouldn't work as hard as I can at the gym, stay focused and determined and set my sights high.
Keep trying as hard as you can - don't let go of the goal of competing one day. Just keep busting your butt to look the best you can and feel good about yourself! It's good to have a 'role model' but you are an individual - you'll never look like her or anyone else. You are put together different!
Yes, that large AND that lean is pretty unnatural. I am pretty large at the moment, but I lose a lot of it when I diet down al naturelle. Don't worry Wilson6, I am not some jacked chicked masquerading as a natty! I also agree that 10mg per day of any steroid will not get most women even close to that look. 10mg per day might get you a fitness look, but if you have good genetics you can ususally achieve a fitness look without the 10mg per day. It just takes longer, and smarter, training and dieting. Of course, you'll still need breast implants
Sassy69
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Another thing to keep in mind when you set your goals based on a "role model" -- you can compete in such natural, well-tested organizations such as the NGA and stay natural. But the reality is that the competition is pretty damn stiff and in order to even consider competition in most, you HAVE to juice, unless you actually are a genetic monster.
If you are just getting started and your goal is to compete naturally, of course that's possible. You can seek out the fully natural organizations or the tested shows and give it your all. But do realize that even tested shows usually have some "cheaters". When you look at someone who does compete at the top levels, do what you can with what God gave you - and do it to the best of your ability. Sometimes the result is much nicer than the enhanced result because it was natural and the sides of the enhanced process didn't skew the results. But don't be discouraged from doing a show. Natural or not, its an experience unto itself.
The comment about beign "tall" -- I'm 5'7" as well -- and this also true of male bb's -- if you are shorter, there is less size to spread out muscle over, less body mass to have to support and just generally less of everything to build up, lean out, keep proportional, etc. I think if you are taller, you can generally keep things more proportional - the long, lean look is awesome and the short people sometimes just can't pull it off.
If you are just getting started and your goal is to compete naturally, of course that's possible. You can seek out the fully natural organizations or the tested shows and give it your all. But do realize that even tested shows usually have some "cheaters". When you look at someone who does compete at the top levels, do what you can with what God gave you - and do it to the best of your ability. Sometimes the result is much nicer than the enhanced result because it was natural and the sides of the enhanced process didn't skew the results. But don't be discouraged from doing a show. Natural or not, its an experience unto itself.
The comment about beign "tall" -- I'm 5'7" as well -- and this also true of male bb's -- if you are shorter, there is less size to spread out muscle over, less body mass to have to support and just generally less of everything to build up, lean out, keep proportional, etc. I think if you are taller, you can generally keep things more proportional - the long, lean look is awesome and the short people sometimes just can't pull it off.
nikkita
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WannaB, There is a great gap between a female BB and a fitness competitor... whereas a BB has huge muscles and high definition as the picture you say in fitness the muscle tone should appear firm and round with a small amount of body fat over the muscle.
Fitness competitors have athletic routines which may be more demanding, while BB's just have posing routines.
Why don't you post your pictures so that we may know a reference point and tell you somehow what you may be able to achieve naturally.
Fitness competitors have athletic routines which may be more demanding, while BB's just have posing routines.
Why don't you post your pictures so that we may know a reference point and tell you somehow what you may be able to achieve naturally.
SteelWeaver
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Just train hard, rest well, eat properly, keep stress low and watch in amazement as your body becomes things you never dreamed possible. I'm 5'11, vegetarian and natural, and while those 3 things may appear on the surface to place great limits on what I can achieve in comparison to your average mesomorphic, carnivorous AAS user, for me they aren't limits, just facts of life, like the sky is blue. Sure, my long legs'll probably NEVER look very big, but that's not stopping me from training them to the point of la-la land Because there sure is room to make them bigg-ER.
Role-models are great for motivation and for learning, but bad for comparisons and goals. It's good to have a general idea of what's achievable naturally, but I also think that automatically assuming that any reasonably well-developed chick is using AAS is a mistake. I don't really know much, but I think it's the 24/7/365 leanness factor that's the giveaway usually. A fair amount of size can be developed naturally, but keeping it when you diet, then maintaining it is a whole nother story.
I intend to simply make the very best of what I have by learning and applying everything I can about the body, nutrition, etc., and by competing once a year for as long as I can. Whether you win or not, what you go through to get on that stage is a journey few people are priveleged (or crazy, or strong) enough to complete. It's a great goal to have, and the BB world is big enough that there are competitions to suit any level of development.
If you are consistent in your approach to optimal training, nutrition, rest, every day, every week, every month you will be making gains, learning, growing, progressing, moving - and I guarantee one day you will wake up and you will have far surpassed the potential you only thought you could achieve.
Because there sure is room to make them bigg-ER.Role-models are great for motivation and for learning, but bad for comparisons and goals. It's good to have a general idea of what's achievable naturally, but I also think that automatically assuming that any reasonably well-developed chick is using AAS is a mistake. I don't really know much, but I think it's the 24/7/365 leanness factor that's the giveaway usually. A fair amount of size can be developed naturally, but keeping it when you diet, then maintaining it is a whole nother story.
I intend to simply make the very best of what I have by learning and applying everything I can about the body, nutrition, etc., and by competing once a year for as long as I can. Whether you win or not, what you go through to get on that stage is a journey few people are priveleged (or crazy, or strong) enough to complete. It's a great goal to have, and the BB world is big enough that there are competitions to suit any level of development.
If you are consistent in your approach to optimal training, nutrition, rest, every day, every week, every month you will be making gains, learning, growing, progressing, moving - and I guarantee one day you will wake up and you will have far surpassed the potential you only thought you could achieve.
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