is it possible........ do i have no genetic limitations???

[MsBeverlyHills]

& BTW--everyone has genetic limitations or there would be no need for steriods.

 

[Powerlifter-148]

my middle finger and thumb touch around the biggest part of my wrist

 

[spatts]

What moves your joints around?

 

[Exodus]

sorry MS. BVH - but like spatts just asked....... what moves around your wrist??? Muscles

i was overhead pressing 250 about 3 months ago. and my wrist would kill me cause they werent used to it. now i can do ohp rack lockouts with 340 for reps with no straps at all.

im wondering if your bones can get thicker..... and my hands are swelling up, but they are not to some extra ordinary degree. and im at the same weight i was at 1 year ago when i could do it.

and there is no need for steriods, just a desire. and some most people are so stubborn with thier training thinking that it is the only way, that when they plateau after a couple of years, they start hitting the juice. instead of finding a way around it, they just take the easy way.

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[spatts]

Also the muscles in your wrist often go between, under, over bones, so your bones may "feel" hard on the outside, but that doesen't mean you aren't experiencing hypertrophy below/inside that plane.

The flexor digitorum superficialis flexor carpi radialis, flexor pollicis longus, palmaris longus, etc....all capable of growing and getting stronger.

Ever looked at the difference in size between the wrists/hands of a butcher?

 

[Becoming]

& BTW--everyone has genetic limitations or there would be no need for steriods.

Yet I am bigger, stronger and leaner than a lot of steriod users (who don't always look or lift like it)... And I am sure there are better examples than myself... I am actually trying NOT to gain any more significant mass at this time, but rather trying to better utilize what I already have... I am sure I could hit a pretty lean 300 within a couple years if I wanted to....

I don't think steroids change your genetic limitations any... I think they are a tool-like any other training aid-which aid recovery/increases gains, etc... I do not think they grant you any "magical" abilities or new limitations that you would not have made with adequate time though...

The limitations are in one's mind- there are tons of users that make no real progress yet use huge doses of steroids-visit the anabolic board and you will see tons of examples... The people that do make huge progress I feel would have made it anyway- the steroids only sped up the process... There are lots of examples of this as well...

 

[Becoming]

Also the muscles in your wrist often go between, under, over bones, so your bones may "feel" hard on the outside, but that doesen't mean you aren't experiencing hypertrophy below/inside that plane.

The flexor digitorum superficialis flexor carpi radialis, flexor pollicis longus, palmaris longus, etc....all capable of growing and getting stronger.

Ever looked at the difference in size between the wrists/hands of a butcher?

Dang spatts- awesome knowlege of anatomy- you sound like a med student...

 

[spatts]

Don't be fooled, I had to bust out my old text book. I couldn't remember what all was in there. There's more, but I got tired of typing it out. Damn Latin.

 

[overhead]

Forgive my ignorance , but don't steriods do a little more than speed up the process? I understand they speed recovery, and increase gain, but do they not also create hyperplasia(sp?) that would not be possible for a natural lifter? This is a question, I am not trying to say anyone is wrong, i just want to make sure I understand.

 

[Becoming]

Shhh!- No, say this next time:

I did not even have to bust out my old text book. I think I must remember every word printed in there. There's more, but I got tired of typing it out. Curse that damn photographic memory!