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is 1-testosterone a steroid?????

It seems people don't want to be confused with the facts. It is an anabolic steroid pure and simple, there is scientific evidence that it is more anabolic and androgenic than testosterone. Ironically, if there was no 1-test burn it might have been released as a prescription drug and we wouldn't even be having this discussion, since it would magically start working.The fact that any mention of 1-test is quickly moved to the supp board doesn't help perceptions either. Especially since it certainly belongs on the anabolic board more than the avena sativa, maca and ala discussions that are never moved.
 
transdermal delivery???

I'm afraid that I'm with those that say that orally 1-Test isn't that great, at least it's not worth the price most people are asking for it. I was curious about the transdermal delivery that is claimed by some companies like Urban Biologics and their 1-TestProAlpha. What's the shake down on that? Would that work any better? I was looking at that but I have a hard time believing in transdermal delivery.
 
Ignore my last post, I see that this was addressed in a different post and I'm really sorry for acting like a newbie. Haven't been on for a while.
 
There are now products that use cyclodextrins to increase the bioavailability of oral 1-t.

You can also buy transdernal gel with 1-test through avantlabs.
 
thanks for sheding some quality light Spidey
posts under 100? newbies?
why would someones inteligence be identified by the number of posts? I could sit here for 10 hours and have 1,000 posts, doesn't make me a chemist

......or does it?.......
 
Singleton said:
There are now products that use cyclodextrins to increase the bioavailability of oral 1-t.

You can also buy transdernal gel with 1-test through avantlabs.

Cyclodextrins are good at getting 1-test in the body, but they SUCK for sustaining levels. The only really effective forms of 1-Test right now are oil-solubilized softgels, transdermals, or injection.
 
Super One+ transdermal works! (Product has been banned)
1-AD works!
Boldione works!

I've use all of the above and many others. Most people who don't like the PHs have probably only tried products like the 19-Norandrostenedione, Androstenedione and 5-Androstenediol.

Some people say it's just a placebo effect. Well that "placebo effect":rolleyes: makes my gains go up and up everytime I use the 1-Test products, so I say bring on the placebo effect. As far as comparible to steroids, I think steroids give a better result but the pro steroidals are very comparable.
 
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Spidey you seem to know the most on this subject. I wanted to ask anyone if they have seen (used) the products put out by SDI labs. Their site is : www.legalsteroids.com

I have been looking at them and they have peaked my curosity in them. I checked the bbb on them and they are a member and are in good standing.

I am looking for some feedback on these products. Thanks!
 
D-abolicone said:
Spidey you seem to know the most on this subject. I wanted to ask anyone if they have seen (used) the products put out by SDI labs. Their site is : www.legalsteroids.com

I have been looking at them and they have peaked my curosity in them. I checked the bbb on them and they are a member and are in good standing.

I am looking for some feedback on these products. Thanks!
I will start by saying I am not a fan of prohormones. Any time you see a company naming their products after real AS, like Winny-V and the like, it should throw up a warning flag. The fact is, there is only one legal steroid in the US that is not a prohormone and that is 1-test.

Scroll down to the ingredients of their products and you will find they are just varying mixtures of 1-AD, 4-AD, 1-test, ma huang, caffein, etc. There are no "LEGAL STEROIDS" (excepting 1-test) in their preparations and most of their products do not even contain 1-test. Their 1-test suspension is a mixture of 1-AD, 4-AD, and 1-test ETHER. I am not sure what ether they have attached but I suspect it is a THP ether since any other ether would be too stable and the product would be totally inactive. A THP ether would make this product totally useless unless taken orally. The THP ether has to come off in order to release the hormone and it would need acid catalysis to do that (stomach acid). That means you couldn't make a transdermal or injectable out of it.

Pro-hormones have effectiveness problems for a number of reasons: 1. They rely on a rather inefficient enzymatic oxidation (or reduction) to release the active hormone. 2. Your body already has high levels of 4-AD as it is the direct natural precurser to testosterone. Adding a little more 4-AD will not have a huge effect. Think of adding a cup of water to a containor that already contains a gallon of water. Will you see a big difference in the water level? 3. Prohormones are steroidal compounds themselves and still suppress the HPTA while exerting only minimal anabolic activity. Some (like 4-AD) can also be aromatized to estrogens creating a gyno risk. The risk to benefit ratio is just not so good IMO.

Put all that together and you have a compound that you have to take high dosages of and the anabolic activity will still be many times less than real steroids but will still have many of the negative sides of real steroids like HPTA suppression, gyno risk, etc.

Now, it is true that 1-test is a true anabolic steroid and not a prohormone. However, oral bioavailability kind of sucks. Since it has no 17-alkyl group, most will be destroyed on first pass through the liver. You could eat test suspension and the same would be true. The only truly effective means of delivery is injection IM. Transdermal preps will probably work better than oral preps but injection will still be the best.

Your best bet is to buy 1-test powder; esterify it yourself and buy a powder kit to make an injectable or find a place that sells 1-test cypionate powder (or other ester).
 
Thanks for the quick reply and the help in making an educated decision. If I decide to use any of these "products" out I will stick with the 1-test and look to make it injectable.

Thanks again.
 
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