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heatherrae
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I didn't make the analogy. bluepeter did. It isn't the priests to terrorist analogy that I am trying to make. The point is that generalizing by letting a few bad seeds represent the entire religion would be wrong in both cases.
Also, being that one of the significant reasons that our forefathers came to America was to escape religious persecution, it seems sad that we would rationalize people here saying we should go to war, not with a country, but with all people of that religion. From a practical stanpoint, can you imagine the outcry from the rest of the world if we actually were so imprudent that we actually made that an objective in our foreign policy.
This argument is the same that I used to hear from racist all the time growing up -- "All blacks are N*ggers. You see on the news every night that one has killed someone. We should lynch them all." Now, most people know better and that seems outrageous, but plenty of Americans are talking the same way about Muslims. Either way, it is wrong. In a decade or two, our children's children will hold their heads in shame about those comments.
Also, being that one of the significant reasons that our forefathers came to America was to escape religious persecution, it seems sad that we would rationalize people here saying we should go to war, not with a country, but with all people of that religion. From a practical stanpoint, can you imagine the outcry from the rest of the world if we actually were so imprudent that we actually made that an objective in our foreign policy.
This argument is the same that I used to hear from racist all the time growing up -- "All blacks are N*ggers. You see on the news every night that one has killed someone. We should lynch them all." Now, most people know better and that seems outrageous, but plenty of Americans are talking the same way about Muslims. Either way, it is wrong. In a decade or two, our children's children will hold their heads in shame about those comments.
dullboy
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HeatherRae said:
dullboy never claimed that all muslims are terrorists. dullboy never claimed that most muslims are terrorists. dullboy never claimed that any significant amount of muslims are terrorists.
what dullboy did claim is that the vast majority of muslims remain silent about their muslim brothers and sisters committing acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.
finding one or two examples of random muslims condemning these acts of slaughtering innocents hardly qualifies as general muslim criticism of these acts.
the fact of the matter is most muslims quietly support the destruction of israel by any means... that is a fact that is supported and cannot be argued against.
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heatherrae
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I wan't speaking of dullboy (shit now you have me doing it) in particular. I was speaking as to the content of the entire thread and other threads floating around, as late.dullboy said:
I have heard many Muslims on TV begging for us not to generalize the sentiments of terrorists to all Muslims. I think it just gets little TV coverage, because it isn't as sensational to see intelligent, rationale Muslims speak as it is to see the mugshot of some terrorist at large.
bluepeter
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dullboy said:
bluepeter says that dullboy is being deliberately obtuse by ignoring bluepeter's repeated requests to read the article bluepeter posted which destroys the claim that muslims quietly support terrorism. bluepeter says it's amusing how all the people clamouring the loudest about muslim terrorists refuse to educate themselves on the topic.
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Gambino
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bluepeter said:
lol
come on now, quit with this bs
one measly article doesn't prove anything, fuck even the muslims i knew in michigan disliked israel.
when the shit starts to fly whose side are you gonna chose? the time is near bor
bignate73
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i'm amazed. Since a great number of Muslims don't speak out against terrorists using Islam as their excuse...it immediately means that the silent agree with it.
Ok, so with that reasoning: Does the entire Christian community have the same obligation to speak out against the lady desecrating military funerals with insulting demonstrations? or the mass suicides planned by pseudo-spinoff christians? Christians don't have to answer for these people because we all understand that these people are following their own crazy interpretation of Christianity. The general population here has a pretty decent education on Christianity and thus....its just dismissed.
Now with Islam, we're talking a world religion that, in some cases, has bigger fish to fry than answering for their perceived "fellow" muslim's crimes, especially in the areas that we are involved in. They have to worry about electricty, safety, food, etc. I've heard Muslims here in the U.S. that will tell you exactly that their religion does not condone these actions. This Jihad is a misinterpretation and excuse to wage war.
Just because they aren't running a huge campaign, its to assume that they are silent consenters?
Ok, so with that reasoning: Does the entire Christian community have the same obligation to speak out against the lady desecrating military funerals with insulting demonstrations? or the mass suicides planned by pseudo-spinoff christians? Christians don't have to answer for these people because we all understand that these people are following their own crazy interpretation of Christianity. The general population here has a pretty decent education on Christianity and thus....its just dismissed.
Now with Islam, we're talking a world religion that, in some cases, has bigger fish to fry than answering for their perceived "fellow" muslim's crimes, especially in the areas that we are involved in. They have to worry about electricty, safety, food, etc. I've heard Muslims here in the U.S. that will tell you exactly that their religion does not condone these actions. This Jihad is a misinterpretation and excuse to wage war.
Just because they aren't running a huge campaign, its to assume that they are silent consenters?
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