India Train Bombings

[bluepeter]

dullboy is pretty certain that the catholic church doesn't approve of child molesting, as much as you'd like to believe so to support your prejudices.

certainly, most catholics don't support the concept of child molesting.

where are the leaders of islam who speak out against terrorism? why are members of that faith so quiet about speaking out against terrorist acts committed in their names? could it possibly be, that many members of the faith support these acts?

While I agree there should be a much stronger voice emanating from the Islamic community condemning terrorist acts, to say that none are doing so would be incorrect. There has been widespread condemnation across the globe for many of the recent terrorist attacks including the bombings in the UK a year ago. I assume you are also aware of items such as the fatwah issued by Sistani in Iraq.

P.S. - If I wanted to be really technical, I could say that the Catholic church covered up much of the molestation for years and years which could certainly be viewed as condoning it

 

[AAP]

Just in case ya'll wondering, I am only posting on this thread to get my name here.

 

[dullboy]

While I agree there should be a much stronger voice emanating from the Islamic community condemning terrorist acts, to say that none are doing so would be incorrect. There has been widespread condemnation across the globe for many of the recent terrorist attacks including the bombings in the UK a year ago. I assume you are also aware of items such as the fatwah issued by Sistani in Iraq.

P.S. - If I wanted to be really technical, I could say that the Catholic church covered up much of the molestation for years and years which could certainly be viewed as condoning it

how many of these fatwahs have there been condemning osama bin laden?

or jihadist attacks in general?

maybe, just maybe, many muslims quietly support these attacks as a way of defending themselves from *insert muslim gripes here*.

what other conclusion is a rational person to draw?

dullboy would just like to know where many muslims stand. silence is indeed deafening.

dullboy thinks that the worst possible result of muslims remaining silent is to eventually deal with a confused west. and dullboy doesn't mean bombs and shit. rather, being forcefully deported from the western (modern?) world and islolated.

that would suck.

 

[bluepeter]

how many of these fatwahs have there been condemning osama bin laden?

or jihadist attacks in general?

maybe, just maybe, many muslims quietly support these attacks as a way of defending themselves from *insert muslim gripes here*.

what other conclusion is a rational person to draw?

dullboy would just like to know where many muslims stand. silence is indeed deafening.

dullboy thinks that the worst possible result of muslims remaining silent is to eventually deal with a confused west. and dullboy doesn't mean bombs and shit. rather, being forcefully deported from the western (modern?) world and islolated.

that would suck.

That would indeed suck. As I said though, there has been much condemnation of terrorism and Al-Qaeda in particular from muslim leaders and nations in the past few years. Not what I would call enough but it's been getting better.

 

[phenom007]

resistance

 

[bluepeter]

how many of these fatwahs have there been condemning osama bin laden?

or jihadist attacks in general?

maybe, just maybe, many muslims quietly support these attacks as a way of defending themselves from *insert muslim gripes here*.

what other conclusion is a rational person to draw?

dullboy would just like to know where many muslims stand. silence is indeed deafening.

dullboy thinks that the worst possible result of muslims remaining silent is to eventually deal with a confused west. and dullboy doesn't mean bombs and shit. rather, being forcefully deported from the western (modern?) world and islolated.

that would suck.

Since you claim the silence is deafening:

http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/fri...-again-and.html

 

[heatherrae]

I have seen coverage of the Muslims trying to state time and time again that they don't condone the terrorist acts. Bluepeter also has a point that the Catholic church just moved the priests around to other states to cover up the problem, which allowed more kids to be molested.

I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, and I don't think all Catholics are child molesters. Can't you people get it through your heads that all people of a religion cannot be blamed for the acts of a few very hateful and cruel people?

 

[fistfullofsteel]

no doubt about it, we're all going to die. WWIII is right around the corner.

 

[Phenom78]

I have seen coverage of the Muslims trying to state time and time again that they don't condone the terrorist acts. Bluepeter also has a point that the Catholic church just moved the priests around to other states to cover up the problem, which allowed more kids to be molested.

I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, and I don't think all Catholics are child molesters. Can't you people get it through your heads that all people of a religion cannot be blamed for the acts of a few very hateful and cruel people?

How did you ever get through law school?

Besides the obvious of comparing, however misguidedly, terrorism to the Church sex scandals, the following also bears stating.

The practice of quietly dealing with sexual predators wasn't invented by the Church. It reflected a general societal view in the US at the time that it was in the best interestst of the child to do so. It was routinely done throughout the entire US public school sysytem, as well as everywhere from hospitals to government run daycare. That it was a stupid policy I will not argue. But it was hardly uniquely a Church problem.

And they weren't simply "shuffled around." The fact that they were required to undergo mandatory and extensive psychiatric counseling is often left out of these rants. We now know that these predators are uncurable, but that wasn't the medical wisdom at the time when the left was claiming they were all treatable conditions.

Thsi si not intended as an absolution, but rather a correction of the facts. Bottom line is over 90% of the Church sex cases involved priests and teenage boys. If any conclusion is clear it is that gays should be prevented from becoming priests.

 

[Y_lifter]

I wonder what's involved in converting to Satanism ?

Too bad FromZero isn't posting here any longer, he would probably know.