I'm a Non-Responder (for AAS) are my receptors incpable of absorbing?

[muscles4ever]

I've done two good cycles of 10 weeks each recommended by the bros here. Nutririon, Training etc.. was excellent as been all the 5 years I've been training.

Is it possible that my recetors won't respond to AAS ? I've taken some good shit. It seems that if I eat too much (clean) I just get fatter without added muscle tissues growth(maybe just 3lbs of a cycle).

Please don't waste your time on "Your nutrition wasn't well", "your didn't train hard enough", "you didn't eat enough", "your gear was bunk". If I tell you the source of the gear you wouldn't say so! (And yes all I got was sides acne on my back, testicles shirnkage and hair growth so forget about this 'bunk' shit would you).

Any scientific pros here have an explanation to my phenomenon ? 2 Cycles and only 3-4 lbs gain. NO BS. Just Scientific facts PLEASE.

 

[drveejay11]

It is in fact medically possible......BUT.........highly improbable! This is somItething NO bro on the board can help you with. If you truly believe your work-outs/diet/cycle were near perfect and NO results, then I encorage you to get some testing done from your physician!

 

[B182]

If you've never gone through puberty nor have any masculine traits or pubic hair, then yes, your receptors probably do not respond well to AAS.

 

[pittbull2]

I've done two good cycles of 10 weeks each recommended by the bros here. Nutririon, Training etc.. was excellent as been all the 5 years I've been training.

Is it possible that my recetors won't respond to AAS ? I've taken some good shit. It seems that if I eat too much (clean) I just get fatter without added muscle tissues growth(maybe just 3lbs of a cycle).

Please don't waste your time on "Your nutrition wasn't well", "your didn't train hard enough", "you didn't eat enough", "your gear was bunk". If I tell you the source of the gear you wouldn't say so! (And yes all I got was sides acne on my back, testicles shirnkage and hair growth so forget about this 'bunk' shit would you).

Any scientific pros here have an explanation to my phenomenon ? 2 Cycles and only 3-4 lbs gain. NO BS. Just Scientific facts PLEASE.

Could you tell us what your 2 cycles consisted of ? just curious

 

[FOZY]

maybe you just don't respond to fake gear

 

[lawnsaver]

Please tell us your cycles!! Let us know your progress, or lack there of, without gear. Tell us what your diet consisted of. We need more info!

 

[muscles4ever]

If you've never gone through puberty nor have any masculine traits or pubic hair, then yes, your receptors probably do not respond well to AAS.

At the age of 28 I think I've gone through puberty

maybe you just don't respond to fake gear

Fozy you probably don't know to read english do you? I clearly said that my source was legit (can't tell his name). And that 1) I got LOTS of hair on my back during the cycles. 2) I got real acne on my back and delts. 3) I got testicle shrinkage. 4) I got itchy nips and small lumps. Does that indicate of a fake gear?
The first 2 cycles were G.O.O.D gear. Only the third(current may be questionable)

Please tell us your cycles!! Let us know your progress, or lack there of, without gear. Tell us what your diet consisted of. We need more info!

LAWNSAVER, You are directing the attention at the wrong place. It's not the cycles that were bad. But anyway:
WK1-10 Deca300mg/Sust500/Dbol35 followed clomid and liquidex.

Second cycle was:
WK 1-8 Enathate 750mg, EQ 350mg, Durabolin300mg
WK 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED

I gained about 2 pounds on each cycle! Let's here again about the fake gear that caused me hairy back, slight gyno and test shrinkage....

Also, note that my genetic POTENTIAL is horrible. I am training for 5 years (VERY hard) yet gained natuarally just about 5 pounds. So theoretically the 2 pounds gain on one cycle is quite good for such a horrible genetic.

Please note I have a degree in nutrition and and currently learning kinesioulogy so don't waste your time on the wrong issues. It's something to do with Receptors, Low muscle fibers count or god knows.

 

[71olds442]

everyone responds to AAS.. your body produces these naturally so you have to react to them. before you get all bent out of shape, how many calories were you eating per day? something is wrong with this.

 

[lawnsaver]

So I guess this is just a venting thread. I guess you are just un-helpable.

I am truely sorry for your hairy back. Good luck in the future.

 

[JohnyJuice]

Well, either your training is fucked up, or your diet sucks, or you dont respond to gear. You said it wasnt your diet or training, that it is you.
I have a suggestion for you....Growth hormone and insulin. Give it a try.

 

[lawnsaver]

GH/Test/Slin is the only option I would try now...Good advice!

 

[JohnyJuice]

GH/Test/Slin is the only option I would try now...Good advice!

Thank you, thank you very much (Elvis voice).

 

[muscles4ever]

GH/Test/Slin

Thank god for one saint out of the crows This is an advice.

But isn't GH and Insulin much more health dangerous than AAS and on top of that give less results in terms of mass ?

 

[71olds442]

what are your current stats?

 

[JohnyJuice]

Thank god for one saint out of the crows This is an advice.

But isn't GH and Insulin much more health dangerous than AAS and on top of that give less results in terms of mass ?

If you know what you are doing, insulin isnt dangerous. Growth and insulin will yield impressive gains. I have seen it. Of course it helps alot if you are juicing while doing this, but that doesnt seem to be an option for this guy. If you are going to use growth, i believe you are supposed to have a test done to see if there are any cancer cells in your body, cause gh will accelerate cancer cell growth.
On the topic of receptors, i would like to maek 1 more suggestion...try fina. Strongest AR receptor affinity of all steroids. Also promotes satellite cell growth. Mix this with a low dose of dbol or winny, because these 2 both work outside the AR receptor to achive there results. Anyone agree with me on this? Can i get a hell yeah?

 

[Dr.M]

I think without posting the cycles and your diet, and your routine, people aren't going to know what to think.

I know I haven't heard of anything like this, hmm.

 

[B182]

At the age of 28 I think I've gone through puberty



Fozy you probably don't know to read english do you? I clearly said that my source was legit (can't tell his name). And that 1) I got LOTS of hair on my back during the cycles. 2) I got real acne on my back and delts. 3) I got testicle shrinkage. 4) I got itchy nips and small lumps. Does that indicate of a fake gear?
The first 2 cycles were G.O.O.D gear. Only the third(current may be questionable)



LAWNSAVER, You are directing the attention at the wrong place. It's not the cycles that were bad. But anyway:
WK1-10 Deca300mg/Sust500/Dbol35 followed clomid and liquidex.

Second cycle was:
WK 1-8 Enathate 750mg, EQ 350mg, Durabolin300mg
WK 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED

I gained about 2 pounds on each cycle! Let's here again about the fake gear that caused me hairy back, slight gyno and test shrinkage....

Also, note that my genetic POTENTIAL is horrible. I am training for 5 years (VERY hard) yet gained natuarally just about 5 pounds. So theoretically the 2 pounds gain on one cycle is quite good for such a horrible genetic.

Please note I have a degree in nutrition and and currently learning kinesioulogy so don't waste your time on the wrong issues. It's something to do with Receptors, Low muscle fibers count or god knows.

Gaining weight ain't rocket science- if you eat more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. How much of that gained weight is fat, muscle and visceral organs will depend on many variables, but simply follow the simple equation calories eaten - burned calories = weight gained. The excess calories don't just vanish into thin air.

 

[Norway]

Maybe SHGB problem`s ??


I would try FINA (great receptor binding) with Proviron og Methyl DHT or something. (SHGB problem solved).

And i would start eating High Protein and high good fats.
High intensity basic training
more quality recovery time and start GROWING big time.

nøff said Norway

 

[muscles4ever]

Maybe SHGB problem`s ??

I've read a little right now on SHGB. Maybe that's my fucking problem??? I did test myself once at a lab for Free Testerosterone and Total Test and got good values for both free and total. Does it mean SHGB ain't my problem? Or there is no connection between the two?

 

[lawnsaver]

The bottom line is that you need to change something. Gh and slin will increase muscle fibers, Tren and proviron have awsome A/R binding properties. Winny will work great too, because it doesnt work via the A/R.

Try these and you HAVE TO eat more!!

 

[Dr.M]

Gaining weight ain't rocket science- if you eat more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. How much of that gained weight is fat, muscle and visceral organs will depend on many variables, but simply follow the simple equation calories eaten - burned calories = weight gained. The excess calories don't just vanish into thin air.

Good point, so if the diet was there then you (poster) got fat and only gained 3-4 pounds of muscle, is this what your saying?

Otherwise, for the purpose of roids, your diet was NOT on. Again though, if you don't post details, I don't know of anyone here who hasn't responded to hormones, unless you look like a woman already due to your current imbalance, which I'm doubting.

 

[dumbell150]

"Everyone Responds to AAS" is BullSh*t!......I had a training partner a few years ago who eat, trained and Juiced very much they way i did...He actually probably eat more and better than i did..We trained like jail house life'ers and we were consistant..He took a bit more AAS than i, and let me tell he was strong like an OX but looked like a well built tennis player.. I always had at least 25-30 ilb of muscle more than he did......It years later now and he finally realized that AAS has very little effect on the look of he's muscles....Thats just the way it is..If one guy can grow from a small dose of AAS, then theirs always going to be some poor slob who can shoot all day and all night and i only get a zit to show for it....

 

[Dr.M]

So your saying he gained only fat and strength? Does he gain muscle naturally? How long has he been training before he started with gear?

 

[shreddedmass]

ITs simple, everybody responds diff to juice. some take a little and grow a lot , some take shit load and gain just few pounds. Thats why not everybody can be pro bodybuilder, its gentics, how u train how u eat and simply how well u respond to juice!! u did few cycles u say and u only gained all together like 6pounds right. so do few more and u gain 6 more , that would be 12lb gain. u dont huge over night so after few years and after few cycles u can have your 25lb gain of pure muscle, its just gonna take u longer then others thats all. so keep training hard and dont give up. oh and its a afact that some people just dont respond really good to jiuce, i known lot of guys who took shit load and almost gained nothing, and i mknow some guys who gained a lot on 300mg of test.

 

[rj420]

yep

some people just don't take to well to the gear. No matter what my training partner does, he just doesn't gain that much on gear. He only weighs 170lbs. and has a good frame to build muscle on, but the only thing that seems to happen when he's cyclling is he gets more vascularity and the other common sides, and only gains a few pounds (net) on 750mg/test/week along with 400mg/deca/week. He gets the usual bloat and puts on 6-8lbs. while on. He does everything right with ancillary use/diet/training. Thankfully I'm one of those that needs a little to make good gains.

 

[muscles4ever]

some people just don't take to well to the gear. No matter what my training partner does, he just doesn't gain that much on gear. He only weighs 170lbs. and has a good frame to build muscle on, but the only thing that seems to happen when he's cyclling is he gets more vascularity and the other common sides, and only gains a few pounds (net) on 750mg/test/week along with 400mg/deca/week. He gets the usual bloat and puts on 6-8lbs. while on. He does everything right with ancillary use/diet/training. Thankfully I'm one of those that needs a little to make good gains.

everybody responds diff to juice. some take a little and grow a lot , some take shit load and gain just few pounds. Thats why not everybody can be pro bodybuilder, its gentics,

"Everyone Responds to AAS" is BullSh*t!......

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

Most people think that if you don't grow of juice you gotta do something wrong. Why? Because they grow of juice and their freinds grow of juice, so naturally they assume that everybody can grow of juice.

That's plain wrong. There is a very small percentage of people that don't grow of REAL juice and doing EVERYTHING right. These are a few but they exists! I am training for 5 years, with more intensity than bodybuilders 50 pounds larger than me!! Eating MUCH better than them and taking shit load of supplements AND AAS and still don't grow much. I didn't grow naturally as well. It seems my Genetic potential is extremely bad. I checked Test levels once and they came us great. It's gotta do with Genetic build up, receptors bindings, cortisol levels or god knows. But I gotta admit the SHGB thing is giving me hope. Especially with the Fina I am getting tomorrow

 

[Spoud]

I agree!

Try the Fina since it can promote the growth of satelite cells too which inevitably will make you bigger...