IGF-1 LR3 or peg MGF

[godzilla+]

Hello People,

I read a bit about them , I know optimal would be to get them both but thats a bit pricey for me, so for my first peptides try, which one would you recommend me (pros/cons). Also I would like to know if these 2 can be stored after reconstituted with AA water at room temp. or should they be kept in the fridge?
Best regards and a wonderful new year!

G

 

[ALIN]

Hello People,

I read a bit about them , I know optimal would be to get them both but thats a bit pricey for me, so for my first peptides try, which one would you recommend me (pros/cons). Also I would like to know if these 2 can be stored after reconstituted with AA water at room temp. or should they be kept in the fridge?
Best regards and a wonderful new year!

G

Ive used IGFLR3 a few times with good success. After mixed I would definitely keep them cold.
What are your overall goals?

 

[godzilla+]

Strength and mass would be my overal goals, with strength being first, TY for tghe answer!

 

[godzilla+]

Any opinion on MGF? And how are these 2 compared to AAS? much weaker?

TY
G

 

[gymrat827]

igf & mgf work in synergy. mgf is like phase one of growth, igf phase 2. mgf creates more stem sites and activates dormant muscle fibers/cells. igf takes the stem sites and grows them into new cells. this process is hyperplasma. increasing/splitting muscle cells. you will allow your muscles to grow much much larger than possible before. once you 18-22 a mans body is done growing pretty much, however many cells you have is what you have to work with. getting bigger will be increasin their size, not the amount of them.

so if you can use them properly, you will grow quite a bit. not like AAS, slower, but the gains will be easy to hold on to. most guys lose 20-40% in pct..... so think of this as a different type of cycle. PEG MGF should be used 2-3days a wk, LR3 or DES 4 days.


for mgf you re con with BAC water, sodium chrolide, etc etc. igf you use AA. you can use BAC too, i do. with aa you can keep things out in room temp, but why risk it. the moment they come in the mail put in fridge and after you re con keep there too.

 

[gymrat827]

they degrade very quickly at room temps. like 90% faster than normal.

 

[gangstalo]

I wonder if there is a sticky on all the different peptides, how to stack, how to keep/ store them, frequency, duration, etc? Or if someone would be willing?

 

[gymrat827]

keep reading bro. i could make one but dont have the time energy

 

[godzilla+]

But if for the first step I have to choose one of them (money) which one would you choose? MGF?
Do these stem cells go away or can I do the IGF some months later when I have the money?
TY
DST

 

[goin on 4T]

igf & mgf work in synergy. mgf is like phase one of growth, igf phase 2. mgf creates more stem sites and activates dormant muscle fibers/cells. igf takes the stem sites and grows them into new cells. this process is hyperplasma. increasing/splitting muscle cells. you will allow your muscles to grow much much larger than possible before. once you 18-22 a mans body is done growing pretty much, however many cells you have is what you have to work with. getting bigger will be increasin their size, not the amount of them.

so if you can use them properly, you will grow quite a bit. not like AAS, slower, but the gains will be easy to hold on to. most guys lose 20-40% in pct..... so think of this as a different type of cycle. PEG MGF should be used 2-3days a wk, LR3 or DES 4 days.


for mgf you re con with BAC water, sodium chrolide, etc etc. igf you use AA. you can use BAC too, i do. with aa you can keep things out in room temp, but why risk it. the moment they come in the mail put in fridge and after you re con keep there too.

This is pretty cut and dry. I have always preferred IGF and have gotten great gains from it. I have also stacked it with HGH and Test prop and really had some even better gains.

 

[TmanDtoo]

igf's timing is not as critical as mgf. so you can take igf post or pre-workout, mgf you have to take immediately post-workout; since mgf is a growth factor that is only released after muscle trauma(weight training). doses of igf are usually in the 50-100mcg range, where mgf is usually 200mcg. so you will get more hits from a vial of igf than mgf.. either should be ran for @4 weeks, after that your body becomes less sensitive. a few days or weeks will correct this. or you can rotate the two every month

 

[John Juan]

I prefer igf1-Lr3. I get great pumps from it.
When I ran peg mgf I didn't notice much of anything. It was a few years ago, and it was made in China, not USA made. Perhaps the source was bunk. I haven't tried USA made peg mgf yet.

 

[Elvia1023]

I prefer igf1-Lr3. I get great pumps from it.
When I ran peg mgf I didn't notice much of anything. It was a few years ago, and it was made in China, not USA made. Perhaps the source was bunk. I haven't tried USA made peg mgf yet.

Quite funny seeing this thread as I have 1 vial of MGF from about 2 years ago. It was from the Ergo days and I had a set amount of commission so I just added it onto my order. The funny part is I just mixed the vial yesterday... after years in the fridge. 1 vial will do nothing but my plan is 200mcg post workout when I can. I have never used it before and doubt 1 vial will do anything.

I would go with LR3 or DES. We have it at 40% off now.

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[dragonbolic]

IGF-1 LR3 how to use

Ok, I need a little bit of help...I have igf1-lr4. I've been trying to find a post or maybe a video on how to mix and inject? I still need to get the mixing B water. But I've been reading up and studying everything before I make the leap. So I need to knew what type of syringe and how much b water I mix with the lr4 bottle and then how to measure in syringe then where to inject? Thanks for the help bros!

 

[Elcsum]

Re: IGF-1 LR3 how to use

Ok, I need a little bit of help...I have igf1-lr4. I've been trying to find a post or maybe a video on how to mix and inject? I still need to get the mixing B water. But I've been reading up and studying everything before I make the leap. So I need to knew what type of syringe and how much b water I mix with the lr4 bottle and then how to measure in syringe then where to inject? Thanks for the help bros!

you can use either 29 or 31 gauge insulin needles. These are available from most chemists. They come in 1ml, 0.5ml, and 0.3ml. I use the 0.5ml 31 gauge. You can also buy them online along with a sharps bin and alcohol swabs.

IGF1-LR3 comes in 1mg bottles. Add 1ml of AA to the vial. The vials are often pressurized or vacuumed, so you may have subtract 1ml of air from the vial before you add 1ml of AA.

Now, if you mix in the ratio as suggested above this will give you 100mcg per 0.1ml, which is the 10th mark on an insulin needle... also referred to as 10 IUs.

Google "peptide calculator" and have a play around with the mixtures. You find all the mixing ratio and dosage info in the calculator... it's a really clever online Excel spreadsheet. Very handy.

As for the original post, which is now pretty old, I would choose IGF1-LR3 any day over MGF/PEG. MGF is stronger than IGF, so even if you inject IGF pre-workout, the natural production of MGF will be enough. You can do both, but if you can only afford one, then it should be IGF.

....AND THE PUMPS WITH IGF ARE INSANE!!!!!!!

Now, to convince you peeps about how awesome TB-500 is for strength. I've been using it for 3 months and added 20 kgs to my bench for the same amount of reps!! It's unreal, and it's healed up all my injuries. It's expensive and isn't anabolic, which is why I think most ppl ignore it, but it grows new blood vessles, which mean more oxygen and nutrients are getting to your muscles during and after training. It's crazy for strength increase.... and the more you can lift means the more you grow.... right??

I'm currently using: IGF1-LR3, Ipam, Mod-GRF, TB-500, Ligandrol (SARMS)... and, over the past 4 months, I've lost 7% bf, put on 5 kg and my strength has gone through the roof!

Peace yo,
Elcsum

EDIT: I forgot to mention that you can AA will keep any peptide stable at room temp for at least 1 year. There are studies proving this, but I couldn't be bothered looking for a reference, so you can take my word for it or not. This the best part about using AA over BA. I personally keep everything in the fridge once mixed, but the beauty of AA is that you can load a needle with 10 IUs / 100mcg of IGF1-LR3 (for example), take it to work (at room temp all day) and then backload 20IUs of BA water just prior to injecting. Obviously you don't need the BA water, but a0 it takes a bit of the sting out, and b) it's easier to accurately inject 15 IUs than 5 IUs, especially when we're talking about hitting triceps or somewhere else that's a little awkward.

 

[John Juan]

Hello People,

I read a bit about them , I know optimal would be to get them both but thats a bit pricey for me, so for my first peptides try, which one would you recommend me (pros/cons). Also I would like to know if these 2 can be stored after reconstituted with AA water at room temp. or should they be kept in the fridge?
Best regards and a wonderful new year!

G

I love the results from Igf1-Lr3. I didn't notice anything from peg mgf.
Acetic acid is convenient because it's good at room temp for two years but man does it burn like hell upon injection. Next time I'm going to just use bacteriostatic water and keep it refrigerated making sure I use the full vial within 20 days.

 

[Elcsum]

I love the results from Igf1-Lr3. I didn't notice anything from peg mgf.
Acetic acid is convenient because it's good at room temp for two years but man does it burn like hell upon injection. Next time I'm going to just use bacteriostatic water and keep it refrigerated making sure I use the full vial within 20 days.

Just backload BA when you administer your dose. I mix it with AA (1m per mg), and then add 20 IUs of BA after I draw 10 IUs of mixed AA/IGF1-LR3. The 20 IUs of BA takes pretty much all the sting out of 10 IUs of AA. Straight up AA can sting a fair bit and continue to feel like someone's punched you in the tricep for 20 minutes afterwards. Up to you how you do it of course, but I like to mix it with AA so I can take it to work for the day and not worry about it going bad.

 

[dragonbolic]

Hey John Juan, thanks for the advice! I could not be happier. I do have one more q and a for ya? See I don't think my IGF-1-LR3 came with aa? So do I need to order it? And if so who caries it? I know I've seen threads on how to make it at home. But ordering it would be way less conspicuous because of my living conditions...


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[dragonbolic]

Oh. One more thing, would AA work the same way with Melanotan II? Or any peptides?


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[adam08]

Godzilla, what kinda results are you getting ? First igf cycle? How long is your cycle ?

Been toying with a igf stint myself but hearing mixed reviews

What protocol are u using ?
40/40 bi laterally?
Sorry for all the questions hard to find many real life examples of how this stuff works. (Feel free to chime in Anyone else with experience as well)

Cheers in advance


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[dragonbolic]

This would be my first cycle on injections...and I've been debating about bilateral and sub. I hear so many different thought and ideas about it. But nothing that gets me excited about poking myself, lol! So the first Igf I've taken is your standard 5mg deer antler extract. Under tongue for no less then 2 minutes, at 20-25 mgs before work out then 15 after every muscle group that I finish. The results are, I'd say the least, explosive with the different pre-workouts I'm taking, on top of 8mf of bête alanine. So I want to take a long lasting one. IE Igf lr3...just have not decided on muscle or under skin so I can have it around the whole body...I've been looking into aa instead of ba water cause you can keep it in you bag before and or during or after your workout. Without refrigeration. Just wanted to see where to order it @? But I do have experience in deer antler and i love the results so now I want more! Stronger results...I'm also taking bio grow three times a day with 4 scoops of prod into my protein at a time...can give you more details on that later bro, so I'm here to give answers and suggestions too if you need anything.


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