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If you had these supplements...

b fold the truth

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If you had the following supplements to use..how would you use them if you were me?

Vit C
B Vitamin Comples
Multi Vitamin
Triple Threat Prot Powder
Creatine Powder
Creatine with Sugar Mix
Glutamine
Flax Seed Oil
Milk Thistle
Evening Primrose Oil


I lift 3x per week including doing Events after one of those sessions. Getting ready for Nationals in October...putting a plan together.

Any thoughts???

B True
 
Protein and glutamine post workout, to facilitate recovery and aid in glycogen compensation. You can also use the protein throughout the day whenever you feel you need to take in a higher amount. Creatine should be used on a specific loading phase (I have to find it for you.) All others can be taken throughout the day. I would add the flax to my protein, but not post workout. Creatine and sugar, you can throw out.
 
i will help you out with the ones i know:

i think you should take the vitamins and the flax oil in the morning.

once you wake up you will be depleted of the nutrients so thats a good way to kick start the day.

i would take the protein after your workout and before bed

add one thing though....... potassium.......... take the creatine, potassium, and glutamine together right after workout....... Glutamine first, creatine second, then about 2-300 potassium pills.

sounds good to me.

X
 
b fold the truth said:
If you had the following supplements to use..how would you use them if you were me?

Vit C
B Vitamin Comples
Multi Vitamin
----take the vit/multis b-4 bed or just after training.



Triple Threat Prot Powder
Creatine Powder
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thruout the day especially the protein after training



Creatine with Sugar Mix - after training if you can't get a shake down immediately

Glutamine - post training shake
Flax Seed Oil - shakes other than post training
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Milk Thistle
Evening Primrose Oil

evening b-4 bed on these two.
I lift 3x per week including doing Events after one of those sessions. Getting ready for Nationals in October...putting a plan together.

Any thoughts???

B True
 
Here's a little known one, try throwing down 1000mg of vitamin C right after you train, it helps to cut donw on soreness. I don't remember the exact details, but it has something to do with cutting down on the free radicals running through the body after a workout, which have a lot to do with muscular soreness
 
Vit C --> 500mg in the morning & 500mg at night
B Vitamin Comples -->
Multi Vitamin ---> one in the morning
Triple Threat Prot Powder ---> post-workout and to fill some protein when I know there will be no time to do a specific meal
Creatine Powder ---> on bulking, in breakfast... remembering to consider loading phases.
Glutamine ---> one teaspoon post workout and another two hours after

I would also add Vit E 500iu in the morning and 500iu at night
 
Lots of good ieas here...wow...you guys know A LOT more about supplements than I do. WoW!!! Thanks.

I get stuff from time to time from a "friend" at Met-Rx. They send me some samples of things to try...used to be a big MyoPlex fan.

Here is what I did in prep for my last contest.

Vit C - 500-1,000mg post workout and anytime I sneezed
B Vitamin Comples - 1 tablet with breakfast (and a lot of water)
Multi Vitamin - 1 with breakfast and after event training
Triple Threat Prot Powder - 1 scoop breakfast, 1 scoop at bedtime, 2 scoops post workout...all with milk. (20g prot per scoop)
Creatine Powder -10g during workouts mixed with powerade
Creatine with Sugar Mix - 6-12g post workout
Glutamine - Night Fly just recently gave me some to try...
Flax Seed Oil - Mixed with all prot shakes, 1 tbsp
Milk Thistle - 2-4 caps per day (helps with dehydration)
Evening Primrose Oil - 1-2 gels per day (helps with dehydration)

B True
 
Few questions...

Why not use flax post workout?

How important is what time of day you take your vitamins?

Is there a large importance put on additional potassium other than what I get from a multi vitamin?

What is Uncle Udo's?

I think that I have some V2G laying around that is expired...worth taking?

Why take glutamine post workout AND 2 hours later?

How important is loading creatine?

Why add additional Vit E?

WoW!! So much info...thanks for the ideas!!!

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Few questions...

Why not use flax post workout?

Fat slows down absorption of the carbs and protein

How important is what time of day you take your vitamins?

I believe best is b-4 bed or right after training

Is there a large importance put on additional potassium other than what I get from a multi vitamin?

Yes. Helps reduce cramping tremendously

What is Uncle Udo's?

ANother flax oil - stick with MQ - just as good

I think that I have some V2G laying around that is expired...worth taking?

Yes but you gotta take a shit load of caps to get a god dose

Why take glutamine post workout AND 2 hours later?
Immed with vreatine and simple carbs - to hit quickly and then later with regular foosto get another spike

How important is loading creatine?

It's not.

Why add additional Vit E?

Reduces oxidation caused by heavy lifting - always increase C proportionally as well.

WoW!! So much info...thanks for the ideas!!!

B True
 
Thanks Corn...I need a shirt with your name on it for my next contest...

B True
 
lololol

What about an EF shirt??


Seriously I was VERY happy to hear that the nutritionl chages you made between contests helped...I think the Flax and TT360 were MOST beneficial.
 
well, I'll try to explain though be patient to me because my English may not be good for some terms :)

>>How important is what time of day you take your vitamins?
I consider this something such as breakfast and dinner... it may be too hard for an athlete to begin the day without food because in breakfast you give your body nutrients that will use readily given that you were asleep for about 8-10 hours without any food. So your body will absorb vitamins quickly... at night is something sort of what it would do to your body to go to sleep without eating anything?? something like that

>>Is there a large importance put on additional potassium other than what I get from a multi vitamin?
depends on how much potassium the multivitamin contains.

>>Why take glutamine post workout AND 2 hours later?
Glutamine can contribute to glucogen muscular recovery after they have been decreased or exhausted at the end of a workout session. So after workout you give your body what you exhausted and then you add more for maintenance during the day.

>>How important is loading creatine?
This is because the quantity of creatine that can be accumulated in the muscle is somehow limited, that is why is is necessary an initial loading phase followed by a maintenance phase, so that it can be easier to maintein the total levels of creatine that can be absorbed.

>>Why add additional Vit E?
Even when Vit E is known by its antioxidant properties and prevention for heart diseases, it can play an important factor to prevent acquired muscle loss. It also helps to reduce muscle fatigue during exercise because it reduces inflamation supporting "prostaglandin" production which prevents spasms of the muscle by moving calcium and oxigen to the tissue.
Vit E is also necessary for maintaining the skeletal muscle system, and helps for iron absorption.
 
Cornholio: I only have one EF shirt...and I wear it all the time. Afraid to wear it when I train...because it would get filthy.. I do thank YOU very much for the supplement advice...very much.

nikkita: Tons of great advice. Please stick around this board...I could use the advice.

spatts: What is a colloidal mineral?

B True
 
good info

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I'm with Corn on the loading creatine B. It's a waste of money.

I've used creatine since it came out and usually loaded it until a year ago or so. Now when i start it up i just stick with 10 grams a day everyday and notice no differance whatsoever by the end of a week (the recommended loading duration). By the way i'm a big guy 320 lbs.

Also a little known bit of info. Creatine serum levels in the blood were shown to peak about 2 hours after supplementation. So try and take it around 2 hours before lifting/contest with some carbs.

On another note. I would recommend taking your vits and mins twice a day. Especially in the heat. And dont forget your a big guy. Almost twice the size of your average man.

Good luck Big B.
 
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spatts: What is a colloidal mineral?
 
"Developed from plant-source minerals specifically to supplement the balance of the body’s natural chemical production. Contains up to 70 of the 94 naturally occurring elements, including all of the essential minerals, in trace amounts. *
Trace minerals are so important that the lack of trace minerals quite possibly is the primary cause of disease within Western culture today. †

Unfortunately, it is difficult to obtain the necessary minerals from food because of mineral-deficient soils that are common throughout the world today. It only takes 10 years of intensive farming to exhaust the minerals in any tract of land. The depletion of necessary nutrients by cooking and processing living foods adds to the difficulty in obtaining vital minerals and vitamins from our food. †

Some of the possible benefits of supplementing with our plant-source trace minerals are that it: *

aids absorption of vitamins
provides balance
helps to build and maintain a healthy body
can increase flow of vital energy
enhances our other dietary supplements for maximum bio-availability


Individually, trace minerals have been found to be beneficial for a number of health needs, such as: †

building bones and muscle tissue, stimulating the nervous system, also essential for the proper utilization of calcium (boron)
regulating the breakdown of sugar and carbohydrates (chromium)
helps form red blood cells and maintain nerve tissue (cobalt)
strengthening bones and teeth (fluoride)
regulating the thyroid (iodine)
stimulates a healthy immune system (iron)
fighting cancer cells (manganese)
essential for protein synthesis and a healthy nervous system (molybdenum)
destroying free radicals with vitamin E (selenium)
antibiotic capabilities (sulfur)
helping wounds heal, production of white blood cells (zinc)"

Do you want to know why colloidial and not just any old mineral?
 
Keep the advice coming. What kind do you use?

B True
 
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