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SoKlueles said:
very good post
btw i got a snack before i read ur post:)

so your basically saying that our problems arent answered by losing weight if we are fat....there are other problems beneath the obesity
that everyone has their own issues with their body whether it be obesity, looks or just something htats happened in their life
i really like this post hooker
Who are you now, Dr. Phil? Trying to interpret everyone's post. I didn't stutter woman.

I think it's easy to make excuses for what we feel inside. If you can solve your insecurities by getting the bod you want...thumbs up. If not, delve into what is really causing the issues. That's all Dr. Phil. :rolleyes:
 
habitualhealth said:
Who are you now, Dr. Phil? Trying to interpret everyone's post. I didn't stutter woman.

I think it's easy to make excuses for what we feel inside. If you can solve your insecurities by getting the bod you want...thumbs up. If not, delve into what is really causing the issues. That's all Dr. Phil. :rolleyes:
thanks Ellen:) now do a dance for us
seriously....your right. I soooooo know i have stupid insecurities.....but weight is not all that factors in this
but i was just wondering what other ppl thought about it:)
 
SoKlueles said:
Do you think, that a person that was overweight.....i mean morbidly obese, and has zero self esteem would have twice as much self esteem if they lose the weight?
say they went from 250 to 150
Im mostly talking about females
I mean, they work hard, watch their fat intake and exercise....of course their self esteem is going to go up but do u think that they always think that they can lose "just a little more" to make them look even better and feel better about themselves?
I dont think, and this is from my personal experience, that they ever truly have high self esteem.
Also, do you think a woman who actually does have high self esteem would giggle and blush if a man gave her a compliment? In my opinion, a woman with high self esteem, would already know she looks good and doesnt need some stranger off the street telling her she looked good.
I remember when i was in highschool, yes i was a plumper
and i lost alot of weight....and my friend and I were walking down the street and these 2 guys were standing on the sidewalk...my friend...who was kinda overweight....went around them....but not me, i walked thru them. I had alot more self confidence than she did, but i was 17 then too. if you saw the picture of me in my currrent drivers license you would say eek.....i do think i look alot better now....but i dont think my self esteem is up to par

‘’Do you think, that a person that was overweight.....I mean morbidly obese, and has zero self esteem would have twice as much self esteem if they lose the weight?
say they went from 250 to 150.’’

Not necessarily, true confidence doesn’t come from outward appearance.

I’ve heard of women who subconsciously stay heavy because being thin would expose them sexually suggestive attention. This applies mostly to women who were molested as children

‘’Also, do you think a woman who actually does have high self esteem would giggle and blush if a man gave her a compliment? In my opinion, a woman with high self esteem, would already know she looks good and doesn’t need some stranger off the street telling her she looked good.’’

If the woman is confidant, the compliment (assuming it wasn’t said in a perverted manner) will be well taken. I think woman who scold people for complimenting them are the ones who are insecure. They might not feel as though they deserve the compliment.

People that make fun of and put down fat people are the ones who suffer from the most insecurity.

When somebody compliments me I smile and say thank you.

:nerd:
 
habitualhealth said:
Great post. Funny, i've had a few conversations lately with "friends" regarding this topic.

After reading everyone's posts....there are a lot of great points made. I feel like insecurties and self confidence (or lack thereof) can surface from many aspects in life....not just weight issues. I started the whole diet/workout strictness back in january to lose weight and to feel better about myself. But if/when I am completely honest about all the reasons WHY...it wasnt merely because i looked in the mirror with disgust. I've also has a childhood of parents dishing out chubby jokes, had someone I loved WITH ALL MY HEART leave for someone who had that perfect body.....want to talk about a kick start to insecurities. Have someone tell you how much they love you....BUT. I created my own insecurities based on that alone. Was I not pretty enough? Was I too fat? Was it the weight i gained with the pregancy? Why wasn't I good enough? What did I need to do to get him back? Truth be told, thinking of what I put myself through at that time in my life makes me tear up now. Like bigdawg said what's important is how you feel on the inside? I was never ugly...well, that's a lie...you should've seen me in the braces and coke bottle glasses days....but we create our own insecurities based on what we think we should be....and perhaps are not. Someone else said in the thread...reasons for insecurities differ from person to person.

I've lost ALOT of weight since Jan this year. Really transformed my entire body, but where i've argued with a few friends of mine, to get our body where we want it...takes SERIOUS time and dedication before we start seeing changes. Same with self image....it's not like *POOF* "omg, look at me, i've lost all this weight, i love me, i'm the best me I can be, oh i'm so hot, whoo hoo"...self image also takes time to change. FOR ME, I cant say I'll ever have the confidence that i WANT. 37lbs heavier/lighter....I am still humble and know where I came from. I think if everyone had an appreciation for where people are...where they came from...and just accepted them for who they really are....we'd see a rapid increase of confidence and security in the world. I'm with pintoca on this one....i think i'm more self critical now than i was before i began all this.

As for the attention aspect you all touched on....I don't think people get attention just because of their looks/weight/bod. Take EF for example, if we all look in perspective....why do you really like the people you like? Sure, we can all post pics...clothed, not clothed, flexing or not...but we've really identified with personalities, substance, wit, intellect (or lack thereof :rolleyes: ) and is why we like who we do/dont like. I really appreciate all the compliments I get on here....but i can't rely on the EFers of america to keep my confidence high. Getting compliments..regardless of who they are from....makes ANYONE feel good. One thing I noticed about EF is that even when I posted up my heavier pics...all the gals and guys complimented me. People feed off of substance. Whether you're hot or not, skinny or fat, that's the one thing they see the most. What you are REALLY all about.

I think the biggest lie many people (not everyone) live in is "i dont care what anyone thinks about me...this is me, screw you if you dont like it". I say, do what makes you happy, make goals for yourself that are attainable, if losing weight makes you feel better about yourself, dont let anyone hinder that.

For some jacked up reason: Negative comments are always easier to believe than the positive. You can receive 1500 awesome compliments/comments in a day and have one person follow up with something negative/ugly and it void out all the other. Weird how we humans operate.

I am going to charge you one karma per word per post after reading this one!
Long!
I agree though...
 
With the fat I've lost and the muscle I've put on, my self esteem is always in the shitter.
 
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