HYPOTHYRODISM from T3 --> Help !!!!

[junk]

Ok I couldn't resist waiting for the bloodtest results. I just had to write this post.

I took T3 (tapered up and down slowly) for up to 37.5mcg (this dose only 3 days) and went down slowly (25mcg, 12.5mcg, 6mcg)
I only took T3 for a month which is considered very safe. But I already read posts here that showed sensitive users that hurt themselves from low dosage (rare cases which do exist)

A month AFTER I stopped the T3 while continuing my cycle (Sust & Fina) I started feeling VERY bad. I wrote a post down here and some good bro asked if I make a Thyroid panel blood test. I made all kind of blood tests but they were useless because they were made DURING my T3 cycle.

I took all sorts of shit before (Fina, Sust, Bromo, ECA, Clen) and nothing happened. T3 is the only new shit I took this time.

I never thought as Thyroid being my problem because I stopped the T3 a whole month ago, so I thought I should have gotten the symptoms back then and not only a month later.

Anyway, I started reading about the symptoms of Hypothyrodism and got a PERFECT clearly 100% matching symptoms:

1) Feeling cold all the time while others aren't. That's the number was warning side: You see, I am a type of guy that is always feeling hot, NOT cold.I even go skying with a t-shirt! To emphesize more, all my friends are always cold to death and freezing while I'm actually turning the car's aircondition on! I was always SUPER hot person.
NOW Since 4 days I am ALWAYS feeling EXTREMELY cold! I am going to sleep with 3 sweathshirts and turning the car's airconditioning but this time to the Hotting warming button (I never pressed this button in my life!! It's the opposite of me!)

2) Feeling lethargy. Like even if I sleep 3 hours during the day, I wake up feeling 'heavy' like my leg muscles don't want to move or walk. VERY strange feeling, I never felt in my whole life. Walking becomes a pain in the ass and can almost make me cry since it's so mentally hard for me.

3) Feeling depressed. While actually good financial things happened to me in the last few days among other things, I actually feel worse than before when I really had terrible problems. Rationally I should feel much better now (If I didn't have this shitty probable Thyroid problem)

4) Involuntary muscle cramps(I don't know if it's considered cramps), my quads (the lateralis head) is 'jumping' all day long and particularely at night. This has never happened to me to this extreme before.

5) Loose interests very fast with persons around me.

6) Have memory problems you wouldn't believe.

These sensations I am describing are hard to describe, as it's not like feeling sick with a flu or a virus or something, it's a different kind of feeling. A much worse one. I don't want to workout, but I force myself.

Hours after reading and realizing I probably have thyroid problem, I just went for a private blood tests of T3,T4 and TSH. I should have the results ready by Sunday morning and I am already searching for a private Endocrynologist MD that could meet me ASAP after the blood tests arrive, because I must be ready for a Thyroid problem (in the worest case I will just cancel the session with the doc). I just can't stand the feeling. It's horrible. I cannot stand and afford myself a single more day feeling like I do right now. It's horrible, I can't stand it anymore.

I have questions for Thyroid experts (probably the ones that have already been in my shoes) :

1) How much time after you stopped taking T3 did you notice the problems?

2) From the minute you walked out of the Endocrinologyst office with prescribed medication (T3 or T4) how long did it take for you to feel 100% again?

3) Do you take the medication for life?

4) Does your metabolims stays like shit or does it come back just like it was before taking the medications? I mean, is it always a bit lower than before ?

If anyone experienced or knowlegble can help a million thanks in advance.

 

[Stillgoing]

In all seriousness, you might try posting this on the women's board. Thyroid problems in women are EXTREMELY COMMON. My wife included. I don't know how many males will have had this problem, but, I guarantee women will have. They may be able to help.

 

[DaMan]

In all seriousness, you might try posting this on the women's board. Thyroid problems in women are EXTREMELY COMMON. My wife included. I don't know how many males will have had this problem, but, I guarantee women will have. They may be able to help.

Well, she refers to herself as "a guy", so I'm confused because those are women's dosages.

 

[Miracle Man]

Junk, do not panic, what your experiencing is normal for 1st timer T3 user. I have done coutless T3 cycles and everytime my thyroid bounced back to normal range. After a T3 cycle, your thyroid will not shut down, it will recover slowely to normal range, unless you have thyroid disease. Fina will also surpress T3 levels in your body. I hope you did your blood work at least 5 days after you stoped your T3 intake. If not, your T3 blood levels will not be accurate. See what your T4 levels say. If your TSH number is low, that means you have Hyperactive thyroid. Your pituitary gland is working hard to slow your thyroid down. Relax, wait to see what the test results say. See and Endocrinologist have him give you a phsical exam, he should physically examin your thyroid for nodules. Sometime T4 medication is needed for life sometimes not. I would not tell him about your gear usage unless he will not documented in his medical file, you do not want that. Eat some carbs to stimulate the thyroid. Alot of times that helps alot. Cardio helps as well in stimulating everything. Good Luck.

 

[junk]

TO DaMan: I am a guy not a woman. But I posted my question on the women board as well. I know these dosage are low but I've read searching through Elite archives that in some quite rare cases, people mess up their Thyroid from low dosages and short durations due to extreme sensitivity to the drug.

TO Megadeth1: As I wrote, I already ended my T3 cycle part a whole month ago, and the blood test was done yesterday (Results will be posted on Sunday). What's very annoying is the incredbile shitty feeling and I have no strength to lift weights, I can't bare it. Also, you mention the carbs thing. It's a double edged sword. One side may help recover the Thyroid, but in the other side it may cause extreme fat deposits due the fact that the metabolism is low. Since I've just finished my Cutting cycle, this can be very counterproductive to me, as bringing back a 2-3lbs of fat is certainly out of the question. I am doing Cardio everyday 60 minutes first thing in the morning to speed up metabolism and in fear of not gaining fat when T levels might be extremely low.

 

[Miracle Man]

Ok, your on top of everything. Hang in there.

 

[Texas Guns]

Well, as most here know, a few years ago I had major shutdown health problems to my T3 useage. So my take on your dilema is less scientific, and more from my personal experience....also take into account that I am female. I was on a moderately higher extended cycle off and on but did not taper down correctly and screwed up my thyroid in the process.

The symptoms you described bring back memories for me. I remember even blacking out at work and not having the strength at times to even turn over in bed!! And alot of my symptoms would kick in shortly after I ate. There is no way to describe that feeling, because I had never experienced that type of lethargy before.

Once I went to my doctor, I made the mistake of telling him the entire truth....so he refused to put me on any type of medication because I was an "addiction/overdose risk" because I *gasp, gasp* have used steroids and T3 to lose body fat!!! OMG!! Well he put me on what he called "extreme vitamin therapy" which was a high doseage prescription multivitamin and gave me a big lecture...I apparently picked the wrong doctor.

It was not until I went on a cycle of Primo six months later that I finally got my thyroid kicked back into gear and manipulating my diet to create more energy also helped.

My confusion in your situation is that your doseage was not so much as to cause extreme damage to your thyroid and if you tapered down slowly enough, your thyroid should have been able to pick back up it's normal production. I think things will get back to normal on its own with just a little bit of time. Also do whatever you can to raise your metabolism naturally...whether it be through your diet or activity level. Also check to see if there are other elements that might be adding to your fatigue level...like toxins etc. As we all know, things like drinking great amounts of purified water only and taking plenty of quality antioxidents will also help. Just give it time and when your body says to rest then REST DAMNIT!!!

Those more experienced than I might be able to answer whether your Fina doseage might also be contributing to your symptoms, but since you said this is not your first time using it, that may not be a contributing factor.

Anyway, keep us informed when you get the results of your blood work...post the results so some of our great scientific minds can give you some feedback.

 

[junk]

Well, as most here know, a few years ago I had major shutdown health problems to my T3 useage. So my take on your dilema is less scientific, and more from my personal experience....also take into account that I am female. I was on a moderately higher extended cycle off and on but did not taper down correctly and screwed up my thyroid in the process.

The symptoms you described bring back memories for me. I remember even blacking out at work and not having the strength at times to even turn over in bed!! And alot of my symptoms would kick in shortly after I ate. There is no way to describe that feeling, because I had never experienced that type of lethargy before.

Once I went to my doctor, I made the mistake of telling him the entire truth....so he refused to put me on any type of medication because I was an "addiction/overdose risk" because I *gasp, gasp* have used steroids and T3 to lose body fat!!! OMG!! Well he put me on what he called "extreme vitamin therapy" which was a high doseage prescription multivitamin and gave me a big lecture...I apparently picked the wrong doctor.

It was not until I went on a cycle of Primo six months later that I finally got my thyroid kicked back into gear and manipulating my diet to create more energy also helped.

My confusion in your situation is that your doseage was not so much as to cause extreme damage to your thyroid and if you tapered down slowly enough, your thyroid should have been able to pick back up it's normal production. I think things will get back to normal on its own with just a little bit of time. Also do whatever you can to raise your metabolism naturally...whether it be through your diet or activity level. Also check to see if there are other elements that might be adding to your fatigue level...like toxins etc. As we all know, things like drinking great amounts of purified water only and taking plenty of quality antioxidents will also help. Just give it time and when your body says to rest then REST DAMNIT!!!

Those more experienced than I might be able to answer whether your Fina doseage might also be contributing to your symptoms, but since you said this is not your first time using it, that may not be a contributing factor.

Anyway, keep us informed when you get the results of your blood work...post the results so some of our great scientific minds can give you some feedback.

Thank you Texas Guns, people like you are the ones making this board so great and helpful, I am in this board for years. (was under a different nickname). I appreciate it.

Aside for that, I am currently looking desperately into a private endocrinology so I may tell him everything (paying nicely without any insurance involvment nothing will be written in any medical record. I am also making tremendous efforts to finding an endocrinologyst that is bodybuilding aware (hard to find).
Did you really suffer SIX whole months feeling like crap? I mean, that feeling I have is unbearable. I feel like my legs don't want to move and like you said, I don't even have the strength to turn over in bad! or wake up for a pee or water drinking. I do take a lot of vitamins and stuff, running 45-60 every single day to speed up metabolism. But I just can't stand thinking I will have to suffer like that for more than a few days (Six months? Are you crazy? I won't be able to train good for so long? No way for me).

 

[Texas Guns]

I was an extreme case....I really don't think your comeback will take long at all. I think it would do your body some good and maybe help your energy levels to actually decrease the amount of time you are spending running everyday. You apparently are using up energy stores that your body doesn't even have right now. Listen to your body right now......can't tell you how important that is! Until you are up and running again, try to adjust your workouts so as to maintain what you have instead of continuing your heavy kick ass regimine. It will be better for you in the longrun to be able to pick up where you left off than having to start from scratch.

 

[NubianBeauty]

One word... PROLACTIN (from Fina) Are you taking Dostinex or Bromocriptine?