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Great advice Zyg.
How To Choose the Right HRT Clinic
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Great advice Zyg.
pbhardbody
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Discreet - I got with my Patient Care Coordinator and sent me the following info to pass along to you regarding deca.
There may be some info here that you can utilize with your doc.
Derived from modifying the testosterone molecule, Nandrolone is one of the most popular anabolics in the world and with good reason; it is a versatile anabolic that can be used in "bulking" or "cutting" cycles.
Nandrolone has many benefits coupled with an unbeaten safety record. It has an anabolic (muscle building) rating of 125, making it an excellent drug for adding lean muscle. Neither is it very androgenic (leading to the development of male characteristics in women), with an androgenic ratio of only 37.
Nandrolone aids in various ways:
1. It promotes nitrogen retention in the muscle cell which in turn
2. Promotes the muscle cell to synthesize and store more protein
3. It increases levels of the highly anabolic hormone IGF-1 in muscle tissue
4. And it leads to a significant increase in the amount of androgen receptors in muscle.
5. Nandrolone has been proven to improve endurance
6. Increase the number of red blood cells
7. And speed the rate of glycogen replenishment after strenuous physical activity
8. One trait people love about Nandrolone is its ability to reduce joint pain and soreness
9. This is because the drug increases the rate of collagen synthesis and increases bone mineral content
10. Shown to be a good drug for fat loss, Nandrolone can reduce the amount of fat under the skin and around the abdominal area
11. The amount lost, however, is dependant on dose, with higher dosages having the greatest overall effect
12. Nandrolone also has positive effects on the brain. It increases chemicals in the brain that promote aggressive behavior, which can improve both speed and power
13. Nandrolone aromatizes (converts to estrogen) slightly, but only at about 20% the rate of testosterone, so estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia), fat gain and water retention are not major issues. Most who use Nandrolone seldom complain of androgenic side effects such as prostate enlargement, loss of hair and acne. Those who are worried about their cardio vascular health can use Nandrolone without fear; studies have shown that it does not negatively affect cholesterol.
Nandrolone is a good drug, but it is not perfect. With its chemical structure it acts directly on the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone with a binding rate of 20% of the actual hormone.
Despite its low aromatizing rate, this can lead to breast growth in gyno-prone individuals. There is no need for panic though, because Tamoxifen Citrate can easily combat this reaction.
Elevated prolactin levels are also a side effect of Nandrolone usage, but there are readily available drugs like bromocriptine and cabergoline that activate the dopamine receptor to lower prolactin levels.
Testicular atrophy may be a problem from elevated prolactin as well. HCG (female hormone that acts like LH when introduced into the male body) used during the cycle can possibly remedy or prevent the condition.
Probably the worst effect Nandrolone has is on natural testosterone production: a single 100mg dose of Nandrolone causes complete nullification of testosterone levels, which remained suppressed for a month before returning to normal.
This can cause loss of sex drive, better known as the dreaded "Deca dick." The best solution to this problem is to always use at least a 2:1 ratio of testosterone with Nandrolone.
There may be some info here that you can utilize with your doc.
Derived from modifying the testosterone molecule, Nandrolone is one of the most popular anabolics in the world and with good reason; it is a versatile anabolic that can be used in "bulking" or "cutting" cycles.
Nandrolone has many benefits coupled with an unbeaten safety record. It has an anabolic (muscle building) rating of 125, making it an excellent drug for adding lean muscle. Neither is it very androgenic (leading to the development of male characteristics in women), with an androgenic ratio of only 37.
Nandrolone aids in various ways:
1. It promotes nitrogen retention in the muscle cell which in turn
2. Promotes the muscle cell to synthesize and store more protein
3. It increases levels of the highly anabolic hormone IGF-1 in muscle tissue
4. And it leads to a significant increase in the amount of androgen receptors in muscle.
5. Nandrolone has been proven to improve endurance
6. Increase the number of red blood cells
7. And speed the rate of glycogen replenishment after strenuous physical activity
8. One trait people love about Nandrolone is its ability to reduce joint pain and soreness
9. This is because the drug increases the rate of collagen synthesis and increases bone mineral content
10. Shown to be a good drug for fat loss, Nandrolone can reduce the amount of fat under the skin and around the abdominal area
11. The amount lost, however, is dependant on dose, with higher dosages having the greatest overall effect
12. Nandrolone also has positive effects on the brain. It increases chemicals in the brain that promote aggressive behavior, which can improve both speed and power
13. Nandrolone aromatizes (converts to estrogen) slightly, but only at about 20% the rate of testosterone, so estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia), fat gain and water retention are not major issues. Most who use Nandrolone seldom complain of androgenic side effects such as prostate enlargement, loss of hair and acne. Those who are worried about their cardio vascular health can use Nandrolone without fear; studies have shown that it does not negatively affect cholesterol.
Nandrolone is a good drug, but it is not perfect. With its chemical structure it acts directly on the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone with a binding rate of 20% of the actual hormone.
Despite its low aromatizing rate, this can lead to breast growth in gyno-prone individuals. There is no need for panic though, because Tamoxifen Citrate can easily combat this reaction.
Elevated prolactin levels are also a side effect of Nandrolone usage, but there are readily available drugs like bromocriptine and cabergoline that activate the dopamine receptor to lower prolactin levels.
Testicular atrophy may be a problem from elevated prolactin as well. HCG (female hormone that acts like LH when introduced into the male body) used during the cycle can possibly remedy or prevent the condition.
Probably the worst effect Nandrolone has is on natural testosterone production: a single 100mg dose of Nandrolone causes complete nullification of testosterone levels, which remained suppressed for a month before returning to normal.
This can cause loss of sex drive, better known as the dreaded "Deca dick." The best solution to this problem is to always use at least a 2:1 ratio of testosterone with Nandrolone.
Here is a good read specific to nandrolone and collagen synthesis...
http://www.flexcellint.com/documents/TT/TT2.pdf
http://www.flexcellint.com/documents/TT/TT2.pdf
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You're welcome.
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Thanks bro. I noticed no HCG in your protocol. Is that correct or did you just not include it? 250 ius of HCG for the two consecutive days prior to one of your test pins is benefecial to your therapy in several ways.
If you want my Patient Care Coordinator to give you a price on everything with him, PM me and let me know. His prices are very competitive.
They dont accept insurance - so if you have insurance covering your therapy, you probably have the best deal you will get. If not, you might want to compare.
If you want my Patient Care Coordinator to give you a price on everything with him, PM me and let me know. His prices are very competitive.
They dont accept insurance - so if you have insurance covering your therapy, you probably have the best deal you will get. If not, you might want to compare.
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Bros,
I had blood drawn 2 days ago and will get the results next week.
The blood is from week 5 of my 10 week Test Cypionate only TRT cycle.
I'll be PMing a few of you TRT gurus in the coming days with specific questions.
During my next meeting with the doc I will be requesting Deca & HCG to run along with Test.
Really not sure which ancillaries to ask for, as I know different things are needed to control Nandrolone sides...
I know it may sound odd being that this is my first run, but now that my Test is back up and I'm feeling great in every way, I'm beginning to rationalize staying on TRT and not cycling. My primary concern is fertility, because I want kids someday.
Any suggestions?
I had blood drawn 2 days ago and will get the results next week.
The blood is from week 5 of my 10 week Test Cypionate only TRT cycle.
I'll be PMing a few of you TRT gurus in the coming days with specific questions.
During my next meeting with the doc I will be requesting Deca & HCG to run along with Test.
Really not sure which ancillaries to ask for, as I know different things are needed to control Nandrolone sides...
I know it may sound odd being that this is my first run, but now that my Test is back up and I'm feeling great in every way, I'm beginning to rationalize staying on TRT and not cycling. My primary concern is fertility, because I want kids someday.
Any suggestions?
pbhardbody
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I'll be curious to see how much your level jumped at only 5 weeks in. Cant remember if you are doing 1 cc or 2/week but dont be surprised if the jump isnt crazy just yet.
Also, get your blood work done again at the end of the cycle so that when you are ready to go back on, you can get blood work done again to see how well it has maintained from the time you went off to the time you go back on.
Understand that your test serum level will eventually decrease once you go off. To keep the level up, you need to continue to supplement it with exogenous testosterone.
If you decide you want to have kids, abt 90 days before you want to start, and 2 weeks after your last test injection, start a PCT of the following:
Days 1 - 16 500 ius of HCG per day
Days 1 - 30 100 mg of clomid per day
Days 1 - 45 10 mg of tamoxifen per day
This will get your free test production back up where you need it to be so that you can procreate.
Also, get your blood work done again at the end of the cycle so that when you are ready to go back on, you can get blood work done again to see how well it has maintained from the time you went off to the time you go back on.
Understand that your test serum level will eventually decrease once you go off. To keep the level up, you need to continue to supplement it with exogenous testosterone.
If you decide you want to have kids, abt 90 days before you want to start, and 2 weeks after your last test injection, start a PCT of the following:
Days 1 - 16 500 ius of HCG per day
Days 1 - 30 100 mg of clomid per day
Days 1 - 45 10 mg of tamoxifen per day
This will get your free test production back up where you need it to be so that you can procreate.
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Is it really that easy?
Has it ever been proven that a PCT will definitely increase you production enough that you can have kids?
Permanent shutdown is a scary thing to think about at my young age...
Anyway, for now I'm going to do at least one more cycle before deciding whether or not to stay on indefinitely. I'm really looking forward to seeing how nandrolone works into the mix
By the way, I'm currently up 12 pounds, and down 2% body fat, since beginning this cycle nearly 6 weeks ago. Currently at ~12% body fat.
My diet is clean, up to 4,500 kcals per day. Focusing on high protein, moderate carbs & fat.
Following an HST weight training program. Been training this way for years with mediocre results. This testosterone cycle has been a godsend in terms of improvement.
I'm on 400mg/week Test Cypionate only, with .5mg Arimidex EOD.
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