How To Choose the Right HRT Clinic

[layinback]

There are two testosterone levels that are measured - testosterone serum, and free testosterone.

Your testosterone serum number will increase through therapy. So that is the "primary" number they look at, although your free testosterone level is important as well.

Generally your free testosterone level will decrease when taking injections of testosterone. Because you are injecting testosterone your body is told to stop production.

However, they will usually prescribe HCG which you inject to keep your free testosterone level up, preventing the production stop, and it also prevents testicular atrophy.

The maximum weekly dosage is 600 mg. This is a combination of test and deca. So you could do 400 mg of test cyp and 200 mg of deca for a total of 600 mg. Or you could do 600mg of test cyp.

Keep in mind that these are pharmacy grade so IMO 600mg of test cyp from a pharmacy will generally be more testosterone than 600mg of test cyp from an underground lab.

i am scripted 400 mgs cyp wk, 200 deca wk and 2 i u hgh day. i use the 400
cyp and i only do the deca 12 wks once a year. however i use 3 - 4 iu hgh
day. i've been on this regimen for several years except for hgh, i started that
13 months ago. i am scripted 1/2 mg arimidex every 5 days for ai.

good info you've posted here brutha.

 

[caribeman]

yep yep.

Just got my labs

serum test 381
free test 9.8

No wonder I cant drag myself to the gym and life seems ho-hum.....

Ouch bro! Feel sorry for ya. But the good thing is you can do something about that. Bust a move and get on it.

 

[Discreet User]

i am scripted 400 mgs cyp wk, 200 deca wk and 2 i u hgh day. i use the 400
cyp and i only do the deca 12 wks once a year. however i use 3 - 4 iu hgh
day. i've been on this regimen for several years except for hgh, i started that
13 months ago. i am scripted 1/2 mg arimidex every 5 days for ai.

good info you've posted here brutha.

Do you have any suggestions for asking my doc to prescribe Deca?

I'm getting Test, Arimidex, Nolvadex, and HCG now.

 

[layinback]

Do you have any suggestions for asking my doc to prescribe Deca?

I'm getting Test, Arimidex, Nolvadex, and HCG now.

why are you scripted nolva ? is it for emergency?


bro, i don't know your doc or your circumstances. give me a little feedback
on yourself and your doc.

 

[Discreet User]

why are you scripted nolva ? is it for emergency?


bro, i don't know your doc or your circumstances. give me a little feedback
on yourself and your doc.

I'm 22 years old and have tested very low for total and free testosterone.

First test I tested in the mid 200's. 1 month later with perfect diet and everything else I tested mid 400's, which is still VERY low for 22 years old.

The doctor was happy to prescribe me testosterone. I asked him for ancillaries to have on hand and he wrote the scripts no problem. The only issue I've had is HCG, he'll only give it to me in the final 2 weeks of my 10 week cycle.

As far as the doctor knows, I came in at the mid 400's after 3 weeks on Testosterone. I wasn't really taking it at that time, but he thinks I was.

Hopefully this will give me some ammo for when I speak with him next time, to get more scripts.

My plan is to do 10 week cycles and not stay on indefinitely.

I'm in otherwise excellent shape. Good low body fat %. Clean diet (4500 kcal per day now, bulking), following HST training program.

I made respectable gains as a natural, and only decided to get on test once the gains stopped and I was feeling symptoms of low test.

 

[Zyglamail]

Ouch bro! Feel sorry for ya. But the good thing is you can do something about that. Bust a move and get on it.

Yep, starting monday

 

[Zyglamail]

I made respectable gains as a natural, and only decided to get on test once the gains stopped and I was feeling symptoms of low test.

Symptoms of low test are insidious, they sneak up on you as you age (generally speaking) and the changes are so gradual you almost dont notice them.

Then when you stop to think about the joy you used to get from things and rate them now stuff just doesnt get you as jazzed up, fun things just arent as fun. Can be hard to focus and concentrate.

What really pisses me off about the medical community is that ever since the gov made AAS scheduled it seems the medical community has shunned them. There are numerous studies about the benefits of ERT for women while men just had to sit back and quietly suffer.

Anyway, I digress......

As far as deca goes most docs up on TRT would have no problem prescribing deca at half your prescribed T dose. You could try telling him your joints are a bit achy and ask if he would prescribe it. If not you may want to consider finding another doc if you really want to use it.

 

[Discreet User]

Symptoms of low test are insidious, they sneak up on you as you age (generally speaking) and the changes are so gradual you almost dont notice them.

Then when you stop to think about the joy you used to get from things and rate them now stuff just doesnt get you as jazzed up, fun things just arent as fun. Can be hard to focus and concentrate.

What really pisses me off about the medical community is that ever since the gov made AAS scheduled it seems the medical community has shunned them. There are numerous studies about the benefits of ERT for women while men just had to sit back and quietly suffer.

Anyway, I digress......

As far as deca goes most docs up on TRT would have no problem prescribing deca at half your prescribed T dose. You could try telling him your joints are a bit achy and ask if he would prescribe it. If not you may want to consider finding another doc if you really want to use it.

Thanks for the response, karma headed your way

I do want to ask for it, what is the best way I could explain to him that I want deca?
How should I refer to Deca in terms of naming it?

 

[Zyglamail]

Thanks for the response, karma headed your way

I do want to ask for it, what is the best way I could explain to him that I want deca?
How should I refer to Deca in terms of naming it?

He is your doc, he should be trying to help you as long as you arent trying to hurt yourself. With that in mind I would just come straight and and say hey doc, my joints have been feeling a bit stiff and sore and that you have read a lot of good things about Nandrolone Decanoate and what it did for other peoples joints. Let him know your research has shown doses half that of test prescribed for HRT are common and see what he says. Worst he can say if no. He may say he wants to look into it more himself or simply just say yes.

 

[Discreet User]

He is your doc, he should be trying to help you as long as you arent trying to hurt yourself. With that in mind I would just come straight and and say hey doc, my joints have been feeling a bit stiff and sore and that you have read a lot of good things about Nandrolone Decanoate and what it did for other peoples joints. Let him know your research has shown doses half that of test prescribed for HRT are common and see what he says. Worst he can say if no. He may say he wants to look into it more himself or simply just say yes.

Thanks Zyglamail,
I'm going to give it a try!