How much test does a women make?

[Nelson Montana]

fitmedic: Give me ONE example of when I plugged my book in a thread? The signiture is someting that George added on for promotional purposes.

Sure, I'd like to sell books. Do you work for free? I sell no other products. If anything my book encourages people to SAVE money.

At any rate, ariel wrote back to me and everything is cleared up.

 

[w84me]

Ariel -- just out of curiousity, how did you feel before you found out that your T was low? did you request the test yourself or your doc?

 

[ariel]

w84me,

It kinda goes into detail in my posts above...For a year I had to stay on a precomp diet or GAIN bodyfat..I lost muscle, and just overall became weaker and weaker... i thought it may have been my thryroid, as I had puffy eyes ankles and and hands, and some blood sugar problems too.

I finally hired a good trainer, followed a diet designed to lean me up for 6 weeks with heavy training and there was ZERO change in the shape and size of my body even though I was accounting for every morsel of food I ate. High pro mod fat mod carb diet and training 4-5 days a week. The trainer then said, go see a doc, I think you have low test and estrogen dominance...He asked if I was on the pill(I am not) so he stuck with his guess, and said that the thyroid may be subclinical low as well..I am at a healthy bodyfat and maybe menstrated (PAINFULLY) 4 times a year, and it stops my life. My weights in the gym fell by half on most lifts, my body went from mesomorph to and endo...

The precontest dieting was causing me to gain, because I was eating BMR at one point, and it was getting me crazy with food and having some eating issues. I certainly could not eat 1400 cals(at 145) forever, and I stopped and would just gain bodyfat...On 1900 a day of super clean food.

My tests came out as he thought...Thyroid was normal and test level as well as progesterone, and DHEAS levels were very low..

So I requested the tests...Well, actually I went in the Docs office with a list of tests, and I only told her my symptoms and she already without me even asking wrote out the order for ALL of the things I had on the list as well as the DHEA levels.

I knew for a year something was wrong, but I just chalked it up to me 2 years older(24) than the prior dieting I did, and that I was just not as young anymore...THe doc said I am way to youngh to have the hormone levels I do...I knew too, that I probably was not normal to gain 6 pounds of bodyfat just because I ate 150 grams of carbs a day...No it was not water, since I quickly got bigger in the waist and all my clothes got tight after about a month.
ariel

 

[w84me]

thanks for the info - its got to be tough - you are finished competing for the year? right? I understand what you are trying to do with the T doses now.

 

[ariel]

W84me,

So, with you the only one it seems understanding what I am trying to do...Any suggestions....Everyone is saying that if I just take a dose of 50mg 2 times this month that OH NO, my natural test will fall even further...All though I don't have much to fall anyways, so it really could'nt hurt. I do respect everyones opionons, and indeed come here for help and advice, I just don't think anyone knows what I am really trying to do.

I don't know what type of test is best and the most friendly to a womens body...CYp, Prop, EQ?

Thanks for understanding
ariel

 

[BigEasy]

The 2% test in petrolatium applied to the vaginal area is SOP for first shot libido probs. If that doesn't work, expect Doc to suggest IM injects or Methyl pills.

Right now their is a concern among some Docs that Androgel is easily overdosed in a woman, which is true if they are not careful.

 

[Temple]

The 2% test in petrolatium applied to the vaginal area is SOP for first shot libido probs. If that doesn't work, expect Doc to suggest IM injects or Methyl pills.

Right now their is a concern among some Docs that Androgel is easily overdosed in a woman, which is true if they are not careful.

What is the half life of Androgel? Also, it comes in those 50mg packets so dosing isn't easy. I have been using it by the "about that much" method. It does work well for increased libido and fairly rapidly from my experience. When Ariel was talking about the cream I assumed that it was similar to the gel and in that case didn't see why she wouldn't start seeing some improvement within a few weeks at most.

 

[Intenceman]

Estrogn dominance? That's normal, cause you are a woman. Women are SUPPOSED to have more estrogen and lower test levels-thats what makes them women. GUYS are supposed to have higher test levels, thats what makes them guys. I hope you aren't geting really bad advice, cause that could cause you major problems down the line, would hate to see that happen.

 

[fitmedic]

plugs

nelson, i am referring to the "signature" that is at the bottom of your posts. IMO, it just looks like youre trying to take advantage of peoples frustration and inexperience. and yes i did read that george put it there. i have been taken advantage of a lot and i am very careful of " subliminal solicitation." no harm done.

 

[Nelson Montana]

fitmedic. No problem. But "subliminal"? Seems pretty overt to me!

As far taking advantage of peoples frustrations, the opposite is true. Ask anyone who has read the book and they'll tell you, it's all about showing people to avoid the misinformation about BS diets and BS training programs and BS supplements, and how to save time and money. I don't see education as "taking advantage." Selling bogus products is.