1 to 3 dates depending on circumstances. I don`t like beating around the bush and tell the women I`m with exactly that. I think I make myself clear of what I want in a woman when I go out with them. That`s why I choose quiet evenings talking/walking/drinks instead of the movies where you can`t get to know each other.
In the end, if you went on 5 or 8 dates, what did that do? It just made it "look" like you guys were innocent before having sex. We`re talking about adults here with logical consious thinking (hopefully) lol So I don`t waste time. If the woman does waste time, I don`t pursue it. I even tell them, "It could be my loss or yours, we`ll never know" and it ends that way. I usually get my way though.