How come my back is sore

[the.gladiator1987]

from my last back workout and it never gets sore from my other workouts?

The difference with lastnights workout was that I added T-bar rows. Also went a little heavier on deadlifts. So why does tbar rows make my back sore but not pendlay rows? Why do machines isloate more and make you sore but deads and bb rows are king for mass?

I know soreness is not a good indicator for a good workout, just asking questions here

 

[ExtraMile]

Because the t-bar row hit your back from a differant Angle it's not used to and hasn't recieved that stimulus before or not for a while

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Well I understand that, but if thats the case how come its never reccomended here? All i hear is comound lifts and free weights period

 

[bblazer]

Well I understand that, but if thats the case how come its never reccomended here? All i hear is comound lifts and free weights period

Because at a certain point, machines become rehab tools, or are used to get at "problem areas" for the BBer. Of course there are exceptions like the hcack squat machine, and for some the leg press. But, by and large, you are not going to be seeing a lot of PLers or BBers doing revers pec deck flys. The other issue us the amount of weight that a machine can carry. Take me for example. I am a strength athlete. How much to you think I can get from seated cable rows where the stack is 300 and I can get a strict 15-20 per set? Put 405 on a bar and have me do bent over rows or something similar, and it is a completely different an painful story.

B-

 

[gstacker]

Ima hit those next back day too, been neglecting I wana get a burn too

 

[Tblock1]

Because at a certain point, machines become rehab tools, or are used to get at "problem areas" for the BBer. Of course there are exceptions like the hcack squat machine, and for some the leg press. But, by and large, you are not going to be seeing a lot of PLers or BBers doing revers pec deck flys. The other issue us the amount of weight that a machine can carry. Take me for example. I am a strength athlete. How much to you think I can get from seated cable rows where the stack is 300 and I can get a strict 15-20 per set? Put 405 on a bar and have me do bent over rows or something similar, and it is a completely different an painful story.

B-

Add weight to the stack It makes it all the funner when the cable snaps.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

So basically the machines are for A) pussies or B) people that need to take it to the next level

So I shouldnt worry about machines unless I get pretty strong at my other free weight lifts?

 

[gstacker]

Add weight to the stack It makes it all the funner when the cable snaps.

I saw a video with Ronnie Colman doing a back day... He had the whole stack plus hung plates on the stack jus reppin out with perfect form, his backs ridiculous..

 

[bblazer]

So basically the machines are for A) pussies or B) people that need to take it to the next level

So I shouldnt worry about machines unless I get pretty strong at my other free weight lifts?

Look, I know that I can come off as having the opinion that everyone should be on the quest of a 1000 lb squat and a 900 lb pull. The truth of the matter is that for the significant majority of the population, certain machines can work fine as long as they use them properly with a properly designed program. They may even be the lead in for someone who one day will squat that 1k.

Also, they may not be right for people going "to the next level." After all, they are machines. They have limitations of weight and ROM. Even despite all the adjustments they have, you may not be able to properly fit one to a person. Just like one car is good for one person and one is better for another.

B-

 

[ExtraMile]

Just because it was a change and made your back sore doesn't mean it is a better exercise, if you had been doing t-bar all this time then one day did bb rows it would have the same effect...